How many failed nodes is acceptable

Can you use a pc and windows snip? We need all the columns

You have at least 3 ghosts which are trashing your mesh...

To run snip click start and type SNIP and it will show up. You might wanna replace the above screen shots since they include your outlook

Hold the windows key + shift + S to use the native screen clip app (on a Windows PC).


@ngbergeron Yeah at least 3 ghosts that are trashing your mesh. You should remove them

To clarify, nodes 0x12 0x13 and 0x14 are not attached to a device in the hub, and also have no routes. So probably there is not an actual device on that node in the mesh. Possibly from failed pairings. I would not so definitively say they are "trashing your mesh" but they could be causing a bit of routing troubles.

Unfortunately, they have neighbors showing, so they will likely not be removable from the hub UI. You can try, but don't be surprised if it fails saying "node is no longer on failed list". You probably need a USB stick and PC Controller software to remove them.

How long had the hub been running when you took those last shots?
I would like to see it after around 12-24 hours or more of hub uptime.

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I do not even see where you have given us your hub model and platform version yet?

This capture was taken at 9h10AM March 20th


These three need to be removed (the ones without routes)

Does that mean the hub was running for 9 hours or you captured it at 9am today?
I need to know how long was the hub running since the last reboot.

I still don't even have the most basic info about your hub that I asked for.
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The hub ran continuously between the 2 screen captures. The screen captures were taken seconds before being sent.

Ok you have a C8, now we need to know this

Also, your "Terrace Repeater" looks like it cannot find a route to the hub.
Try moving it closer to the hub (but in the same direction you wish to place it) and see if you can get it to respond to refresh / repair and get some better neighbors listed.

Overall, you have a pretty weak mesh, adding more z-wave devices would greatly help.

The hub was not connected to the wall plug, but it is now. I also installed 2.3.8.128.

Now how do i remove the 3 ghost entries that you reference.

This is the terrace repeater (in the grey plastic box) it is located 20 feet from the lock at the bottom of the stairs and 28 feet from the living room repeater behind the door.


This is the living room repeater, 30 feet from the hub and 28 feet from the Terrace repeater.

I can't really move them right now,

This is an update of the problematic entries at the end of the table. I tried doing a repair as there was no remove and some entries disappeared.


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The path that I am trying to establish is Hub to Living room repeater to terrace repeater to Gate Lock Yale. But the terrace repeater isn't falling in line.

Should I bring terrace repeater close to the hub, establish the z-wave connection and put it back?

Add to my mesh 32 Lutron devices but I suppose contrary to Wink App that sees them as z-wave, the Lutron integration on Hubitat does not.

Lutron Caseta? That is not z-wave at all - it's Lutron's own proprietary protocol and it's hub-&-spoke, not mesh.

Yeah those Lutron devices are not, and never were, part of the Z-Wave mesh. Wink may have presented them to you in a way that it looked like they were all on the same mesh but they were not. They are not capable of z-wave communication at all.

Close-ER, not right next to the hub. Draw an imaginary line from where it is now to the hub, move it closer along that line. You want it in the same general area you plan to keep it so that it will find the correct neighbors.

The hope is that when you move it back to where you want it, that it will still be able to talk to the neighbors it found.

Hit refresh on the ghost line, a remove button will come up. Try removing it then.