I upgraded my C8 to 2.3.9.162 on Saturday. I'm using the Homekit integration and I have no homepods or any other apple devices other than my iphone. There was a glimmer of hope when HK responded once or twice, but since then has gone back to device not responding. I never did try the ping trick, but that's where i'm headed next
You are aware that without any sort of apple "Home Hub" it only works locally correct? Also it is much less reliable even when local. Even using Homebridge without a home hub does not work great all the time.
From what I understand the most recent fix was to keep the connection alive between HE and an apple home hub. With no apple hub then your phone is talking directly to HE, so every time you phone goes offline it needs to reconnect.
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I only use it locally. I just want to be able to tell Siri to turn on and off some lights while I'm at home.
I did not realize the fix was geared towards a home hub and that makes complete sense. I'm not sure what I thought it was doing.
I'll respond more in the other thread
You need an Apple TV or HomePod to be in your home 24x7 for the Homekit integration to work properly.
HomePod Miniās are dirt cheap, and by far the best solution, they even give you a matter + thread border router which which works well with Hubitat.
In Hubitat documentation it says this: The built-in HomeKit Integration app allows you to share devices from your Hubitat Elevation hub to Apple HomeKitĀ®. This allows use of the Apple Home app or SiriĀ® with devices from Hubitat that do not natively support HomeKit.
It doesn't say anything about needing a homepod for it to work. I understand homepods are cheap, but I'd just like the integration to work.
The Hubitat documentation assumes you are already meeting the requirements to fully enable HomeKit.
Ultimate Guide to Apple HomeKit | SafeWise.
You can run Amazon Alexa on your phone too, but without an echo device, itāll be severely limited. Homekit is no different.
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It can and does work without an apple home hub. It is not required. I have found it much more reliable by having a HomePod though, and the remote access is nice.
True, but say you used an iPad to set it up, and you took that iPad out of the house, most things will not work while the iPad is away.
No, not true. Even if the iPad was the home hub (which is not an option in current iOS anymore anyway), it will adjust to the hub being offline. I had my only Homepod die on me and it was offline for months before I finally got a new one. I could still use local control when home, when it felt like working reliably.
If the iPad was not the home hub, then you can setup the "Home" on any device on your account and it will be available on all your devices signed into the same apple ID automatically. Any of those devices that are on the same Wifi and can connect to the HE hub would be able to use the local control, no matter the state of any other devices. You can also share the home to other family members, and the same concept applies to their devices.
I appreciate any help you are trying to offer, but this is just false, I'm pretty new and don't claim to know a lot, but HE documentation says this specifically:
This integration offers direct integration to HomeKit and does not require any external services (e.g., HomeBridge). Users may wish to have an Apple "home hub" to enable use of HomeKit devices while away from home and other HomeKit features. However, this is not required, nor is the requirement of an Apple home hub for this purpose an issue specific to Hubitat Elevation
Ok ok, yes it works, but is it "fully functional", categorically no! And, you are likely to have intermittent issues, as has been reported by others.
If you want to half a$$ it, go nuts, but if you want it to work properly, and reliably, spend $99 USD on a HomePod mini.
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Minimal. The hub pushes several attributes' values to the Apple TV/HomePod, even if they didn't change.
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@gopher.ny Iām still seeing random āhubs are not respondingā notifications every few days on the current HE version. 10 seconds later Iāll usually get a notification that they are responding again.
Unfortunately I canāt tell which of my 2 hubs are behind this.
Curious about how you got the reports?
Iām pretty sure those notifications have nothing to do with the Hubitat hub. Your Apple hub has lost internet access. To verify disconnect your WAN cable from your cable modem and wait 10 to 15 minutes and you should get the same notification.
ā¦.and turn off WiFi on your phone so that it is cellular only. (Or go take a drive.)
Those are from the Apple Home app.
I was home both times - I have a gigabit fibre internet connection with a wifi 6e mesh network.
However, the description is that a āhubā lost connectivity, so you are probably correct that it wasnāt Hubitat - I forgot HomeKit describes them as bridges.
The Home Settings page of the Home App has "Home Hubs & Bridges" and it then splits into Home Hubs and another section for bridges. I'm agreeing that "Hub" is expecting a bit much for people to keep up with the nuances of terminology.
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Do you know if anyone has been able to find a solution to the hubs randomly not responding within HomeKit until they are restarted? It seems like mine is failing to respond 1 - 2 times a day. I have tried turning the hourly restart (within the home kit integration screen on the apps section) on and off and that doesn't seem to make a difference. Thanks in advance!
