As a network engineer I agree with you. They make it unnecessarily complicated I mean if someone gets past the nay, a vlan isn't going to stop them...
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Yeah I originally was going to segregate my IoT stuff using the separate guest network but then it was like, wait what if I want to Cast to my TV, or some app wants to direct connect to the device via LAN, or a bunch of other situations so at that point I just turned off the segregation. If someone really wants to get into my LAN and hack in through my Nest Thermostat, Samsung Fridge or Robot Vac, go for it. Not going to find much anyway.
All the consumer equipment is designed to function on a normal consumer type of network. If you put a business class network in your home then you are on your own for getting it to work.
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Iām with you 100% on this. Iām not a network engineer, but Iāve setup a lot of mid-sized academic networks all the way back to 10base2 days.
I do have a separate guest network, but thatās about all the segmentation I have now.
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Thank you all for your assistance.
I know some of you may have felt my network setup was overkill, but I am at over 200+ devices hence the /18. I also was intending to segregate IOT devices (which I concur with jtp10181, good in theory but did not work as planned) and have my cameras on a special VLAN that is heavily restricted - both for security & privacy. That and of course the guest network.
I have given up on the Hubitat app for now. Instead, I installed a Homebridge server and using the tonesto7 plugin. I am able to achieve about 95% of the functionality I desire. In addition, the off network functionality using the ATV is working as desired as well. All of this is working properly on the /18 segment without needing any tweaks.
In summary, I am not sure exactly of the root cause to my issue, but hopeful that a future Hubitat release will enable direct a Homekit integration.
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FWIW I don't think you get any more functionality than that with the built in integration. I have had Homebridge setup since before the system HK came out and am still using it.
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Yeah, I have a guest wifi network for guests.... Rest of the stuff is on a flat network. It's not like I'm at one of my clients and we have to segregate groups from getting in where they don't belong and what not. Like I said, if someone gets through your nat, they're getting through your vlans too.
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SO my habitat does not show up. The home bridge V2 does, but not the native app under HAP. Is this a conflict?
No, you should be able to run both. Do you have the HE hub segregated on a different VLAN or behind other equipment that may not be forwarding multicast?
So I'm perplexed. Ive been dealing with this issue for almost a year. I have no idea what to do. I would prefer not to have to rely on the Homebridge option. What could be the issue? As you can see, the hubitat Homebridge server shows up (This is a Mac mini running homebridge). But I cannot see the actual native habitat homekit integration app show up. The ONLY network config I have is I have the MAC address of the habitat assigned to an ip address from the DHCP server (The hubitat is set to DHCP)
So, iāve found the issue is definitely something with my HE Configuration. If I āsoft resetā the HE, I can then successfully create a virtual device, install the homekit integration and connect it to homekit. This is ONLY if i do not restore from a backup.
However, when I then āsoft resetā and restore my cloud backup, it then fails to connect again.
perhaps @gopher.ny can take a look at my cloud backup and identify the issue in the backup? Perhaps if there were a way to restore just the radios and select apps? That may help āferret outā the issue?
Of note, I see that when I started from scratch, with the Homekit integration working with just a virtual device, thereās an option to unpair 4 controllers. This is odd, as I only connected it the once to homekit. Why does it say 4 controllers? This is repeatable. Each time I soft reset the HE and then use a clean startup, It always pairs to 4 controllers, not 1 controller.
Is this in the apple home kit app? You sure itās not something to do with the multiple home bridge setups I see in your hap discover?
The Homebridge server connects to other bridges (Not Hubitat). It only has a single connection to Hubitat, thatās via the Homebridge App by Tonesto7, not the native Hubitat bridge app (Homekit Integration).
I asked where you are seeing that message, if it was in HK or in HE, you did not really give much details. I know how Homebridge works, I use it myself. Screen shots would be useful because myself and others probably have no idea what "unpair 4 controllers" message you are talking about.
The issue with it mysteriously working after a soft reset has happened before, @lcw731 I think ran into this as well.
Is this what you are seeing but instead of 2 yours says 4?
@gopher.ny What does this number mean exactly?
That is correct, I see the option to unpair 4 controllers in the Hubitat Elevation Built in Homekit Integration app, I see 4 instead of 2. I would assume this should be 1? Based on your threads above, this indicates the HE database iām restoring from has some error. I would really like to work with @gopher.ny and hopefully pin down the issue so it can be resolved for everyone.
Of note, I do notice that the QR code does NOT reset if you do any of the reset options UNTIL you reboot. Is this normal?
Yeah I have no idea that number is telling us, will have to see if the dev can comment on it.
FIXED!!!! Found the issue!
My hub is named āH.A.L 9000ā
the periods are the issue, spaces do not seem to cause an issue. @gopher.ny perhaps you can make a patch to strip whatever illegal characters may exist in the hub name within the Homekit integration, or perhaps just allow the user to use a different name as the community homebridge v2 app does, and give the illegal character warning there?
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