Help understanding Zigbee mesh

Hi there
I spent the day reading Zigbee and repeater topics.
I still have many doubts.
I was having problems with the zigbee network, some sensors were not communicating well.
Once connected they would work a couple of days and then stop.
Or after a power failure they would not connect anymore.

Adding two ikea repeaters I solved for the sensors of the stairs.
But I continue to have problems with the sensors in the garage.

I have had the repeaters on for 4 days now but they do not repeat. :frowning:

This is a diagram of my house

The main problem is on the SW3 (in garage) switch, it only connects to HE and nothing else.
If it drops voltage it won't connect anymore, and it still works 1 time out of 5.
IK2 has been there for days but no one connects to it.
Also s4 connects to B4 or B5 (now it is connected to B7... :flushed:What?) but not to IK2.

Help me to understand
Thanks

Notes:
I tried turning off for 20 minutes HE did not yield any results.

Are the bulbs the non-repeating kind (like Sengled)?

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Hi
The lamps are all repetitive from what I see, many devices connect trough them and not ikea or HE

That, as you switch them on/off, forces other devices to constantly re-route, and could render your zigbee network unstable.

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Bulbs are always ON (always plugged ), to OFF they are just dimmed to 0

The bigger issue is Zigbee bulbs who think they act well as routers/repeaters on the mesh but really do an extremely poor job and break your mesh.

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Are these devices on the compatible list and if not then what brand are they other than the Ikea repeaters?

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SW3 is a Sonoff MINI Switch
s4 is a HUE Motion sensor

The Philips Hue Motion sensors are great Zigbee mesh citizens, no issues there.

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I'm not saying HUE is a bad sensor, I'm saying it's strange that it connects to the farthest device and not the nearby repeater. (s4 - B7)
If you look at the schematic.

Not unusual for Zigbee or Z-Wave mesh networks. The devices have no concept of physical proximity or position on a floor plan. At a high level they try and select the best routes based on signal quality measurements. The result is you see routes or paths that make no sense whatsoever, and that is normal and nothing you can do about it. Best is just blanket areas with either main powered devices and/or repeaters. Give the network the most opportunities to select a good physical path, but be prepared when they don't.

Also note sometimes it takes days, if not weeks, for the mesh to full settle in and optimize.

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I uderstand
Thanks

Since IK2 doesn't seem to like the balcony, maybe try putting it in the garage.
Personally I'd also add another IK closer to your hub (in the same room, no walls).

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OK Thanks
Can i ask you why add an ikea hub in near the HE?

Having a repeater very close to your HE hub is a good design idea as hopefully more devices will router through it. The reason being is a repeater will handle repeating the commands to other repeaters and devices on the mesh, freeing up the radio on the HE.

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Sorry it is not clear to me
HE or IKEA Repeater compatible devices?
do you have a link?
Thanks

I will Try

I suspect this is a good part of your issue. You will see on the forum that bulbs have a reputation of being very bad repeaters. For this reason, people that have Zigbee bulbs typically pair them with another repeater or with the Philipps Hue Hub. Sengled are the recommended bulbs as they are not repeaters so don’t cause the issues. I personally have all my non-Sengled bulbs paired with the Hue Hub, which is then connected to Hubitat.

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There's a link at the bottom of the page:

Documentation

Sonoff ZigBee, while affordable and reliable(mostly), doesn't seem to have the best range.
Adding a repeater to your garage will definitely help extend your mesh.

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Thanks
Thanks All

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