Help to select smart bulbs

[skelsey915]

Setting up my new HE and looking for bulbs.
Appreciate this thread and this one:

Are there any decent RGBW lights that work directly without issues?

Currently have no color changing bulbs, never saw a need, but now looking for something new to play with since my system seems to have finally hit steady state. I've read a little bit about Hue and Lightify, but it sounds like these cause problems as repeaters. Is there anything out there that will connect directly to HE without an additional hub, and not cause problems? I'd also like to find something outdoor rated if possible, my first potential use for these would be garage sconce lights. Th…

I see good options for a standard RGB bulb but I don't see anything but Hue for a spot (BR30) bulb. I've got plenty of those in my house that I want to make smart and I don't have a Hue system. There are inexpensive standard bulbs so comparing those costs to buying Hue bulbs makes me shudder!

Anybody using color BR30 with HE directly?
If not is it really worth going with Hue when I have a HE to do my control?
Thanks