I'm seeing this as well. Set a Hue RGBW to 2000K on the device page, it decides to use 2032K. Set it to 2032K, it lands on 2049. 6500 -> 6535 and so on. The Scenes are never recognized as being "set" because the Hue bulbs never land on the right CT. The Lightify strips behave correctly. Might just be a Hue thing.
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I'm new to HE and working with multiple Hue bridges (77 lights total) and Alexa. Trying to figure out Scenes and this is EXACTLY the issue I've encountered. Anyone have a solution to this? If all the functionality works aside from the annoying "(Not Set)" indicator I suppose this is something I can live with. Curious for thoughts on whether it is a waste of time to build Scenes in HE when I can use Routines in Alexa. The Alexa Routines were not executing across multiple light groups consistently which is why I started trying Scenes in the first place. Should this work any better?
I have had better performance off loading the work to Hubitat where possible vs having Alexa control each device individually. I had a shutdown everything group where Alexa would control each device. Then I just created the group in HE and now Alexa sends just one command. Gone is the annoying "I'm not sure what went wrong" even though everything worked.
Did you try disabling the "Enable on/off optimization" switch in the groups that are giving you trouble? I had a couple of groups that contained other groups that were giving me a bit of trouble and this cleared it right up.
My reference to "multiple light groups" above was to the Hue "Rooms" that I imported into HE with the integration skill. Not "Groups" created in HE. That said, I isolated another variable in the form of Wi-Fi extender pods. The issues with my hue lights (via Alexa, via Hubitat) seem to have started after I installed multiple pods throughout the house. I'm going to unplug and see if this helps at all.
@bravenel, I have a little feature request if it's possible: startLevelChange and stopLevelChange for the groups. Thank you in advance!
Tried this, but the lag doesn't lead to a favorable result.
Ok, thank you.
You could have the following group/scene states:
- Off
- Offish (less than 50% of devices in groups are on)
- Onish (more than 50% of devices in group are on)
- On
I use an app on Smartthings that does it this way
This might have been brought up before, but when I create a scene that has a mixture of lights being turned ON and others to OFF, switching the scene on, will not turn off the lights (colored bulbs and dimmers). Only if I trigger the scene's off button, will these lights turn off.
For example, I configured a test scene with:
LIGHT1, off, dimmer 50
Activating the scene will ignore the off setting and dim the light to 50.
I tried editing the scene settings and select "off" from the drop-down for the devices I want off, but that didn't do the trick. They still only go off when the off button is pushed.
Wouldn't it be better if triggering a scene was done with a momentary button that has no on/off state but acts as a simple push button. Then whatever lights are set to off or on will function as such.
Another request would be that - when editing a device/light's settings in a scene to OFF -, the remaining parameters for color and dim level will be disabled so that the OFF setting takes priority and ignores the other settings, thus OFF means off 
There is a reported bug outstanding with this. Will be fixed in the next release. I'm afraid that a scene that is adjusted will not turn things off as expected.
The scene activator device has a button that can be pressed to activate the scene. It is also possible to disable the off side of the activator switch. The problem about an element of the scene not turning off is not related to the activator device.
This is the way it is supposed to work, but for the bug mentioned above.
Got it. Thanks!
I know it's sort of frustrating. We've been round and round the mulberry bush on this, and where you end up if you think about it long enough, is that a restriction has to be enforced under all circumstances. There are other scenarios where the opposite use case as yours would fail were it to turn them off even when restricted.
If you're using motion for this, you might want to look at Motion Lighting. It cleanly separates the issues of turning on and turning off, for exactly the reason that a restriction fails in the case of a light turned on right before the restriction kicks in.
Allowing restrictions on scenes makes things too complex and less abstract in my opinion.
A scene should just be that, a scene. It should simply be a configuration template to set a scenario. That way it keeps things simple. There are various other ways to restrict and activate a scene, like RM.
In my use case I would create a number of scenes: morning, daytime, evening, night, away, etc.
Then use a simple rule to activate the scene when the mode changes.
The only time I manually trigger a mode (which then triggers the scene) is for night and morning modes.
I have more complex rules that evaluate the time of day when the mode changes from Away to Home based on time of day mostly. Changing to the correct mode for that time of day will then automatically trigger the correct scene.
Many folks using this in different ways, but I can't imagine of a use case where the restriction is coupled to the scene configuration itself.
I'm just rambling
I have a request.
Can scenes include the capability to set thermostats, doors, and locks? That way we can use simple rules to activate a more complete scene scenario. Right now we have to create Rule Machine logic to do this and from what I understand, Rule Machine is resource intensive?
No, Rule Machine is not resource intensive.
Pushing more functionality into Scene would just muddy it up. What do doors, thermostats and locks have to do with lighting scenes? You can write a simple rule that is triggered by the Scene activation device to do things at the same time that a Scene is activated.
I have set up Groups for various scenarios . Each group is only used to turn off devices and for each Location Mode there is a Scene. In the Scene I turn the Group to off.
It looks like switching a Group member device off, triggers an update of the status of the other groups (if the same device is in multiple groups). In this example, the logs below show the sequence when turning device Group "Goodnight" to off.
It took very long for all the devices to actually be turned off. The trigger was at 12:10:39.xxx and the group was finally turned off at 12:11:21 (about 40 seconds).
Do you have any suggestions how I can speed this process up?
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:21.349 am infoMode Night Group Off switch was turned off
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:20.623 am infoMode Night Group Off switch was turned off
dev:2952019-09-06 12:11:20.087 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:19.850 am infoMode Night Group Off switch was turned off
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:19.788 am infoMode Night Group Off switch was turned off
dev:2952019-09-06 12:11:19.515 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2872019-09-06 12:11:19.435 am infoMode Daytime Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:11:19.204 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:11:19.083 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:11:19.027 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:11:17.548 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:17.094 am infoMode Night Group Off switch was turned off
dev:2922019-09-06 12:11:16.589 am infoMode Evening Off Group switch was turned off
dev:2962019-09-06 12:11:16.363 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:11:15.972 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:11:15.892 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:11:15.592 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:11:15.384 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:11:14.778 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:14.614 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:11:14.335 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:11:13.902 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:12.908 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:11:12.733 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:11:12.065 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2922019-09-06 12:11:11.711 am infoMode Evening Off Group switch is on
dev:2882019-09-06 12:11:11.459 am infoMode Morning Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:10.920 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:11:10.727 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:11:10.664 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:11:10.571 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:10.534 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:11:10.377 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:10.344 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:11:10.272 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:11:10.116 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2872019-09-06 12:11:09.871 am infoMode Daytime Off Group switch is on
dev:2922019-09-06 12:11:09.581 am infoMode Evening Off Group switch is on
dev:2882019-09-06 12:11:09.457 am infoMode Morning Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:11:09.140 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:11:08.314 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:11:08.271 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:11:07.968 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:07.924 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:11:07.780 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2872019-09-06 12:11:07.401 am infoMode Daytime Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:07.314 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2882019-09-06 12:11:07.273 am infoMode Morning Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:11:07.169 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:11:05.994 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2872019-09-06 12:11:05.962 am infoMode Daytime Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:11:05.792 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:05.739 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:11:05.256 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:11:05.216 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:05.013 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:11:04.835 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2882019-09-06 12:11:04.775 am infoMode Morning Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:11:04.190 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:11:03.968 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:03.918 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:11:02.190 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:11:02.044 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:11:01.832 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:01.792 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:11:01.247 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:11:01.131 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2872019-09-06 12:11:00.917 am infoMode Daytime Off Group switch is on
dev:2882019-09-06 12:11:00.834 am infoMode Morning Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:11:00.772 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2922019-09-06 12:11:00.520 am infoMode Evening Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:11:00.062 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:10:59.874 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:59.588 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:59.345 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:58.825 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:58.749 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:10:58.583 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:58.512 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2882019-09-06 12:10:58.405 am infoMode Morning Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:58.378 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:57.505 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:57.013 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:10:57.010 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:56.932 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:56.766 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:10:56.169 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:56.104 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:56.014 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:55.577 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:55.520 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:55.465 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:54.761 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:53.939 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:10:53.794 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:53.476 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:53.230 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:53.087 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:10:52.796 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:52.232 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:52.226 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2872019-09-06 12:10:51.987 am infoMode Daytime Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:51.049 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:10:50.941 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2882019-09-06 12:10:50.517 am infoMode Morning Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:50.420 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:10:50.375 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:50.227 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:49.951 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:49.945 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:10:49.852 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:49.815 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:49.178 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:49.025 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:48.704 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:47.419 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:47.074 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:10:46.439 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:46.269 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:45.968 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:45.748 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:45.396 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:45.314 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:45.238 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:45.151 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2872019-09-06 12:10:45.121 am infoMode Daytime Off Group switch is on
dev:2882019-09-06 12:10:44.595 am infoMode Morning Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:42.919 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2882019-09-06 12:10:42.723 am infoMode Morning Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:42.695 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:42.668 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:10:42.601 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:10:41.595 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:41.554 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:41.526 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:41.484 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:40.696 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:10:40.649 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:40.509 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
dev:2962019-09-06 12:10:40.387 am infoMode Away Off Group switch is on
dev:2872019-09-06 12:10:39.517 am infoMode Daytime Off Group switch is on
dev:2572019-09-06 12:10:39.424 am infoMode Night Group Off switch is on
dev:2952019-09-06 12:10:39.374 am infoMode KidsAreUp Off Group switch is on
dev:2942019-09-06 12:10:39.331 am infoMode Midnight Off Group switch is on
It's very hard to read logs that are copy/pasted. Could you repost those as a screenshot please.
Sorry, the logs are no longer on the hub for this event. I decided to reboot the router, since I had quite a few browser windows open to set up rules and scenes. I rebooted once I was done, and it has helped with the speed. Looks like things are back to normal now.
That's too bad. It would be nice to be able to use groups and scenes as more than "lightning scenes".
For example a mood scene, could allow Sonos speakers to play certain music and lock the doors, and think off scenes not as lightning only scenes but as home automation scenes.
I just migrated everything over from Smartthings to Hubitat and think it's a great product. Super pleased with the Lutron integration and finally be able to use Pico's and such. I used to run a NodeJS container on my NAS for just that purpose and now it's neatly integrated.
However. the one thing I miss from Smartthings are the scene settings allowing to control anything you want and configure a complete scene.
