I have reasons I want to move away from Geofency
I set up the Hubitat fencing on my phone… But I’m a bit confused because I’m out of my Geofence that’s what it shows on the map… but my device shows as present. I’m clearly missing something very basic.
Have you followed the steps in these two documentation articles to setup geofencing in the mobile app?
And FWIW, I use both Geofency and the Hubitat mobile app to create a combined presence sensor.
Mobile presence is often challenging to get working 100%. Combining more than one solution is a popular strategy.
Funny, that happened to me on an S23 phone, twice now. I got a new phone, set it all up while waiting for my new SIM card to arrive, and it was doing that. I even posted about it. It just suddenly started working a few days later, only for me to find that I was sold a locked phone.
So I returned that phone and got a new one that was unlocked, and again, I had that issue. It showed the geofence area as few miles north of me in the woods, same as the first phone... but it said I was present. I checked all GPS settings. I assumed it would fix itself like the first phone, but it didn't... I checked it for a week and then gave up.
I checked it last week and it is now working. The geofence is around my house now. I have no idea what the issue was. I'm thinking that maybe I had to drive a certain distance from my house with the phone and then return?
The geofence in the app can be moved. IIRC by dragging with two fingers.
OP didn’t mention whether the geofence is in the right or wrong geolocation.
If you don't end up happy w/the Hubitat geofencing, take a look at this. A lot of us find it reliable. It does take more work to set up.
Hmm... that doesn't work on my phone. Two fingers scrolls the map, just like one finger. My only option is to set the current GPS location as home, but it always centers the fence around my current phone GPS location, except for when it was not working and showed my phone out in the woods.
Edit: ah, you can drag the pin to move the fence, but it still shows the blue dot where your phone is. I believe the blue dot was also in the woods, as it said I was present in the Geofence, but I wasn't really looking for that dot at the time.
I looked at OwnTracks a bit ago, then I realized I don't really have a good use for home presence anyway. I can't get others in my household to install the Hubitat app to track them (understandably), so it is just me it would track. I used to have Echo announce that "Chris has left the building" and have it announce "Chris is Home!".
They told me to turn that off. I can't think of anything else to automate for just myself being gone...
It is a sad thing when family members won't play along.
I talked my wife into it thusly:
Number two above is her favorite. 
Maybe update the announcements:
Yes,
This works "sometimes"
I built a rule to send me a message when enteriing...it triggers "sometimes."
Thanks. I've been fairly happy with Geofency...and I think Owntracks doesn't sell your data anymore? Right?
My only issue with Geofency is I'm not really sure if it's actually being maintained...and I have some sort of "ghost" fence left over from before that was slightly larger than mine now. It triggers when I go someplace like home depot which is about 2 miles away. I can't see this fence or debug it in any real way. But, it opens my house often before I'm anywhere close to my real Geofency fence.
I was really hoping I could get down to one app for this too.
Yeah, I too have made automations that can be disabled for that reason. For lighting, I have a virtual switch that turns off the motion sensors in each room... well the sensors stay on, but all my lighting automations for that room have a check for that switch being on to perform the automation.
I haven't got around to it, but I was going to have any physical press of a switch also turn off the virtual sensor switch, so if they adjust a light manually the automations automatically turn off. I may get to that one day.
As is, if someone turns off the sensor switch, it turns back on the next time the scene changes (it has to turn back on at some point, and they are not going to do it 
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Since I never actually got to hear the presence announcements (having left the house), it was really just for them to know I left... so if they don't want that, fine with me. There would be a delay sometimes coming home, and I would hear the Chris is home as I walked in the house. Yup, I know I am home 
AFAIK data is entirely "un-sold." I don't believe that they ever did sell data, if that's what you're implying. I've only been using it for the past couple of years. @lpakula (Onwtracks dev/demi-God) would likely know better than I.
That would suggest your Hubitat mobile app geofence is probably working.
But as I said, mobile presence can be tough to achieve near-100% reliability if you rely on only one solution.
That sounds like fake news unless perhaps you can share a link?
What makes you say that?
I would say fake news. Their code is opensource on Github, and they collect nothing. It only calls the MQTT or HTTP links that you supply.
A while back I know for a fact, it was not fake news at all. I do think about a year and a half ago that changed because of all the uproar.
If you are on the S23 as I am, I think I had to tap on the pin and hold for a second to be able to drag it. I don't recall specifically, and I don't want to move mine right now. However, I have had to move it after getting inadvertantly logged out while at work and it moving the pin to my work location. So, I know it is moveable on the S23.
Edited to add, curiosity got the better of me, and my memory was correct. Tap and hold the pin, and then it can be dragged until you release it.
If you know for a fact then please share more details from a reliable news source.
I asked my new friend Claude to look for evidence on the internet to support your claim. He couldn’t find any (from 18 months ago or any other timeframe).
He found plenty of evidence that owntracks effectively can’t sell your data, because they don’t collect or save any of your data. And it seems as though doing so would be pretty antithetical to the developer’s stated approach and philosophy on the issue anyway.
If you’re still concerned about Geofency, I suggest you check the app’s update history in the Apple App Store.
I received an update to Geofency on Feb 12th, and I recall several other updates in the last year or so.
Download the Hubitat app
