Generic Z-Wave Outlet - Start Timer

Using Rule Machine I trying to write a rule that would eliminate a virtual switch if possible. I have a lot of battery powered equipment & trying to be safe. A house down my street burnt to the ground. They lost EVERYTHING! It is said because of lithium battery. I have two banks of power strips hooked to a Z-Wave Outlets. To keep things simple I am just talking about one of them. Do not let the fact that one of them is installed on a Rolling Cart. It can move but it does not, 99% it stays stationery.

App #1722
Name: Battery Chargers for Power Tools 90 minute timer

I have battery chargers that I have connected to Generic Z-Wave Outlet called, Rolling Cart - Battery Charge Re-set. I want to be able to push the button on the Outlet and start the timer for 90 minutes. Not able to figure how to do that I made a virtual switch called Cordless Batteries Reset.

Below is how it works.

  • I grab my phone and turn ON virtual switch Cordless Batteries Reset.
  • Now I push the button on Z-Wave Outlet called. Rolling Cart - Battery Charge Re-set
  • Now the 90 minute timers starts.
  • In 90 minutes it turns off the heavy duty power strip that all the chargers plugged into.
  • The above works.
  • When I just push the button on the Outlet it does not even show on the live log. See 10:30 pm screenshot.
  • It is now like 10:55 and I and I will give a screenshot with the virtual switch Cordless Batteries Reset turned on.

I want to eliminate the virtual switch if possible.


Logging ON  Rule 1722 Battery Chargers

Live Logs below:
Button on Z-Wave Outlet was pushed at 10:58 pm


One last question: On that screenshot device 248 warning. What does that mean?

More Screenshots.


I have a Basic Rule for the same purpose.

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Some devices also have a built-in β€œOn with Timed Off” feature that does not require any rule.

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With Zooz products you can set an auto on or off duration. I use it for safety. For example, I turn off the espresso machine and space heater plugs 30 minutes after they're turned on.

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Did you mention which "Z-Wave Outlet" model you're using? Because not all of them, notably early Zooz models, send status to the hub when you tap their buttons on/off. If that's the case, you're stuck using alternate means to start the timer.

If you have a Voice Assistant (e.g. Alexa), you could easily set it up for a routine like, "A___, turn off the tool outlet in 30 minutes." or "A___, turn on Cordless Battery Reset." In the first case, the VA does the work; in the second case, your Hubitat rule does it.

ZEN04 outlet for one. My Zooz switches too.

Not sure if this is a help

would this work?

New One Zwave Plug, 800 Series Zwave Outlet, Bult in Zwave Repeater, Z-Wave Smart Plug, Z-Wave Hub Required, Compatible with Hubitat, SmartThings, Vera, Wink, Fibaro, Homeseer, 2GIG, Alarm

Is that New One plug the device you have now, or something you're considering getting?

If it's not what you have now, what z-wave outlet/plug device do you currently have? (brand/model)

xavib57905Ξ² Tester

Said not Because not all of them, notably early Zooz models, send status to the hub when you tap their buttons on/off.

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To answer your question, it is one I am thinking of getting if it would fix the problem and I could eliminate the virtual switch.

hydro311

I hope this answered your question.

You can try changing the driver to the Generic Z-Wave Plus Outlet Type/driver? :thinking:

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That might get the reporting working, depends on the type of outlet/plug you have.
Post the Device Data section to check.

Randy, which brand and model outlet do you currently have?

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Looks like a

GE Module ZW4101 or Jasco Zw4101. Must be old I can not even find it on Amazon. Perhaps that is my problem.

RanchitatDevotee

here is the device data:

Device Data

Well, there's your problem... due to Lutron patents, GE couldn't implement "instant status" in those old Z-Wave devices. So you pressing the physical button on the front does not automatically notify the hub.

Good news, though: You can turn on "Polling" for that specific device in on its Device Details > Preferences page (I believe), which causes Hubitat to ping it periodically for a status update. That, in turn, should get your rule running.

If you need speedier response, or don't want to pepper your ZW network with unnecessary traffic, it's time to upgrade. Good luck!

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A quick check whether a device is Z-Wave Plus, the first cluster will be 0x5E.

As mentioned, this device is not Plus, and doesn't report status.

Also, it's a pretty slow (40kbps vs 200kbps) weak repeater for your Z-Wave mesh. :thinking:

Not a bad time for an upgrade. :smiley:

Do you have a recommendation?

How about the one I posted in post 8?

As others have mentioned earlier, the Zooz Zen04 is a solid choice.

Zooz makes good hardware and has excellent customer support, and (at least most of) their devices are well-supported in Hubitat with both community-developed and native/stock driver options.

Remove the GE. :wink:

Personally I like dumb wall receptacles with smart plugs in my shop.
Easier to manage and upgrade.

The New One you linked earlier should work fine.
As long as the power rating is sufficient you shouldn't have any issues.