GE "Smart" Switch Drivers on all GE Switches?

I see that some new GE drivers have been released. Can the GE "smart" drivers for switches, dimmers and fans be used on all GE switches or just Z-Wave plus switches? I have quite a few switches and would need to sort through them carefully if these drivers should only be used on plus devices. My preference of course would be to use them on all of my GE switches which are currently using Generic drivers.

Edit: To identify your Z-Wave plus devices quickly, see post #17

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I believe the "Smart" driver is made specifically for the Z-Wave Plus switches.
@mike.maxwell - Is this correct?

That is what I was afraid of. I can't find a way to determine which of mine are the Z-Wave plus ones without taking them out of the wall. My hope is that the driver can be used on all of them anyway.

Once they are paired, regardless of driver, if they are Z-Wave Plus devices you should see the cluster representing Z-Wave Plus when you look at the device page. The 0x5E cluster indicates Z-Wave Plus.

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Great information. Thank you.

Is there a script that could list all Zwave Plus and non-Plus devices using the 0x5E cluster parameter?

I don't recall seeing one. It would seem possible . . .

When you join the device to the hub, it should use the correct driver based on the device's footprint. You shouldn't have to change them.

The driver for these switches was just released and after the devices were paired.

Then I'm not sure what your question is. If the driver was just released for those devices then don't you know exactly what driver they should be using? Are you trying to find out which actual physical device is the one that you think is this model number?

Every switch in my house is a GE switch or dimmer. Only a handful of them are Z-Wave plus. Not knowing which ones were Z-Wave plus, I was looking for a way to determine which of them would benefit from the driver or if it was okay to use the new driver on all of them. @Eric.C.Miller provided me with a method to determine which of the 60 odd switches are Z-Wave plus so the question has been answered.

No, I am open to an easier method and will look into Z-Wave Poller.

I would not assume anyone is running the Z-Wave poller, as it puts quite a bit of undo stress on a hub is used for every non Z-Wave Plus GE Switch.

I believe the Poller App is using the Capabilities of the current driver for each device to determine which ones to display. Thus, if a user has the wrong driver assigned to a device, it may or may not show up in the Z-Wave Poller App's selection menu. Thus, I do not believe this is a fool-proof method.

The only foolproof method I know of is to look for the 0x5E cluster which indicates Z-Wave Plus as pointed out by @Eric.C.Miller.

Ryan - this is uncalled for

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Okay, I figured out a quick and painless way to identify all of the Z-Wave Plus switches and dimmers for anyone else needing to find them also. Just navigate to the Z-Wave Details page under settings. There you will find a list of your Z-Wave devices along with all of their associated cluster information. Hit ctrl+f and type in or paste "0x5E" in the find window and select highlight and you can instantly determine all of your Z-Wave plus devices on one page.

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I had ignored these drivers because they are labeled "enbrighten", but they appear to work with the non-enbrighten GE z-wave plus dimmers and switches. Nice to see a stock driver with double-tap support. It also has "flash" support that was missing from the community driver.

DOH! Of course. Perfect solution. I just knew there was a way.

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This could be confusing to some, and blame Jasco, but they have branded their Gen 1 Z-Wave Plus switches and dimmers as "Enbrighten" as well. This, on top of the confusion that they do not refer to the non-Plus switches as Gen 1.

So, what you are saying is ... it appears you can use the GE Enbrighten Z-Wave Smart Dimmer/Switch for the GE/Jasco dimmers/switches whether they are the newer ones with QuickFit, SimpleWire, and no breakable tabs, or the older ones with breakable tabs (but still Z-Wave Plus). Whew! [EDIT: Per comment that follows, the driver does not appear to add value over the Generic dimmer driver after all for the older Gen 1 switches]

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That mouthful is exactly what I'm saying. Although, if I remember correctly, some of the first GE Z-Wave plus switches and dimmers didn't support double tap and thus would not benefit from this driver. EDIT: although the

support more features like triple tap and I would suspect that this driver may have features that aren't supported on the older models with the breakaway tabs and slowfit.

Well...I guess everything is enbrighten these days. Thanks for enbrightening me :rofl:

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I spoke too soon, the doubletap does not work with these drivers. It looked like it did, but then I realized I had created a group 3 association with the switch I was testing. Once I removed the association it stopped responding and there is no activity in the event log regarding double tap.
I tried it with a new "enbrighten labeled" z-wave plus dimmer that I got 2 months ago and it doesn't work with that either. :disappointed_relieved:

As a brand new to Hubitat and smart home anything, would any of you be kind enough to share which most current 3 pole smart switch your using and works great? I have a whole house I am excited to get moving on now that I got my one test LED light to work! Could it be the GE 46201? I suppose two pole switches as well unless the 3 pole work fine with 2 pole. I do like the concept of consistency. Also, open to any other switch ideas if you think there are better choices out there for the same purpose. Thanks. Oh, and I have a lot of boxes that crammed two switches into one single box.