GE 14294 Dimmers with @JasonJoel driver question

Could he set the parameters in the dimmer itself to have a really slow ramp, so that Hubitat would catch the On event and issue a setlevel before the ramp had exceeded 15%?

No because the ON event doesn't happen until the ramp ON finishes.

Good thought, though.

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Bummer.

I was JUST about to say....I tried the exact same thing when I had my GE connected to ST. At first I thought it was ST just not catching it fast enough. Burned up half a day I'll never get back trying to figure that one out!! Where were you a year and half ago? You could have saved me a major headache! :wink:

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I wish the GE had a few more options...

  • Leviton dimmers have a parameter for turn on dim level.
  • Inovelli has that (and every other option in the universe).
  • The new GE motion dimmer even has that.

But the original GE dimmers - nope. :frowning:

I'm going to whine about that to Jasco next time I'm in OKC.

That is another thing that zwave 700 will fix... It is SO HARD to debug zwave device code right now that most manufacturers are very hesitant to add any more than they think they need in their device. With zwave 700 it is more normal code debugging, which makes adding features trivial in comparison.

But I digress. :smile:

wait....what? zwave 700 ? IS that something new that is coming? I just spent nearly a grand on new zwave plus switches...... PLEASE don't tell me I should have waited a month....

Im already regretting it now that you mention "other" switches that have the capability that I wanted/indicated in this post..... ugh.... this is infuriating...

Zwave 700 is still a ways off. devices might start coming out toward the end of the year, but probably not much before then.

I've seen a few prototype devices, and have access to a zwave 700 development kit. But mass production of the chips and final API version won't be for another couple months.

And then who knows when the Hub would support it.

There's always going to be something new down the road. That's just par for the course.

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I'm fine with what I have. But I will say if the new inovelli devices would have come out six months earlier I would probably have 100% those at this point.

Well, I say that... But I have so many of the motion dimmers and switches maybe I wouldn't. I sure love those GE motion devices.

See, I don't think I'd like them. Looking around my house, all my switches are in terrible places for motion sensors. I wouldn't use the motion part at all. And then only time I touch switches now is to turn things off early. Motion sensors tied to time-of-day level adjustments for everything else.

Ha! It's the exact opposite for me. Usually the only time I touch a button is to inhibit a motion detector triggered automation to prevent a light from coming on when i don't want it to (stealth mode).

One thing I have done as part of my good night settings is to turn the lights on that I want to have set at a dimmed state, set the dim level and then immediately turn them off. In the morning I have a similar routine that sets the lights back to 100% and then off. Spooky if you happen to be in the area when it happens though.

I'm going to have to do that on my next round of switches. I wish they all had the child device capability like inovelli switches

It would be nice if you could set the dim level before the lights came on. As it is, unless you are there to witness it happen, it works well enough.

You can on the GE motion dimmer, but not on the non-motion dimmer.

The problem is, when you turn on the lights from the switch, it is the switch controlling them, not the hub. One of the hubitat staff (@mike.maxwell) solved this problem. He replaced all his physical switches with Lutron Caseta Pico remotes and then used aeon Z-Wave in wall micro controllers to control the lights. That way, you can have the lights come on to whatever level you want.

The GE Motion dimmer is what I am using. Thanks. That eliminates a rule.

Now you just need a driver that supports changing the on level value. the in box driver doesn't do that.

Hopefully I'll release mine tomorrow, it is next on my to do list.

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Excellent!

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