Fan/Light - Inovelli Red vs Zooz Zen30

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One of them carries line to that switch. The other one carries line to the next fixture in the same circuit. The red conductor would appear to be the switched load.

I have no guesses on the white, but with a multimeter you can test whether it is neutral.

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Thanks!

I assumed I could. Been trying to do research on how to test it with multimeter... any idea?

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One probe on the suspected “neutral”, and the other on the ground. Should be either no voltage or just a trickle.

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@HubMe

I agree with both @aaiyar and @thebearmay

Really popping open the ceiling oct box will confirm the connection but really there is no other way for this to be wired.

It is rare to see this in non-commercial installations. It appears that the wiring used is single conductor intended for use only when conduit is used. And it sucks to find this in a residential building. Before you cut the neutral you should verify that you can pull additional wire into the box to facilitate the connection.

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So I've purchased and installed the Red Series Fan/Light Switch - and the switch is working perfectly.

However, I'm trying to add the device to Hubitat and having some issues. All the links to Inovelli and the drivers that I can find on this community take me to webpages that won't load due to an error (tried on different web browsers too).

Please help me find/load the correct drivers, and information on how to properly add the device to my hub.

  • The QR code that came in the box sends my phone to a similar webpage that won't load due to an error.
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The Inovelli website had a small hosting problem this morning that it is recovering from. (Should be back up tomorrow). I’d post my copy, but it’s a little too large.

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Ha wow. Perfect timing.. just the day I get my switch installed

Regardless, when it’s back up.. where’s the best instructions on how to add/set it up?

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Best instructions are actually at the site you can’t get to, but I just sent you a message with a couple of links that might help get it done tonight still.

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Looks like the site may have recovered. One thing to check if you are still having pairing problems:

Hold the A + B buttons for about 5 seconds, this should give you an indication of what the mesh strength is at the switch - green is good, red says that it's having issues finding the hub.

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GREEN = GOOD :thinking:. Good suggestion though. Will keep trying, maybe exclude

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Did a factory reset on the switch, and FINALLY Hubitat found the device!!

Thanks for your help.

With regards to naming the device, can I give it two names?

  1. ABC Fan
  2. ABC Light

How do I distinguish what is done when using Alexa? When using Rule Machine/Motion Lighting?

Also... in the device settings... WOAH there are a million settings. A bit overwhelming...

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Glad to hear it finally worked. The switch should have created two chid devices, one for the light and one for the fan that can be named.

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As for the settings, yeah quite a few options - I usually go down to the child devices and alter them there. Also what I use for the rules and Alexa.

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I have a ceiling fan with integrated light / fan speed controlled by an included remote.

Would either of these switches allow me to ditch the remote completely without having to get the 28 ft ladder back out to rewire the fan / remote relay?

The fan is this model Home-Decorators-Collection-Federigo-48-in-Integrated-LED-Indoor-Nickel-Ceiling-Fan-with-Light-Kit-and-Remote-Control-SW1618BN from home depot

Sorry for bumping an old thread but this one seems pretty comprehensive sans my question.

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First, welcome to the community. I have some Inovelli Fan/Light Switches (lzw-36) and they require climbing a ladder to install to install module in fan housing. Probably the only way to incorporate the existing remote is to buy a Bond Hub for approximately $100 (www.bondhome.io). I had that previously and switched to the Inovelli because Bond cannot track status of fan if someone uses native remote. Also, it quit working to turn the light off or on for 2 of my 4 fans.

I now have 4 Inovellis. Unfortunately, they are not perfect but definitely better. I have had times where pushing the button to turn light off/on does not work after 5-6 pushes for one particular switch. Unfortunately, the switch I am having biggest problem with that is same location that gave me the most problems with Bond integration and the WAF is loooow.

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I wish the hampton bay zigbee fan canopy controllers were still available.

I knew I should have bought a couple back when I got my first one working.

I bought a sonoff module, but the fan speed control sucks unless you replace the on board caps. And the light is only on/off. No dimmer.

Is the wife hard set on that fan? Can you replace the light fixture on it? I'm a fan (no pun intended LOL) of fans that take regular base bulbs. No built in lighting, or dang candelabra base bulbs.

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You hit the nail on the head. Wife is ultimate decider and frankly it's installed on a 2nd floor ceiling overlooking the downstairs so I literally need the big ladder to change anything. I just need a new switch that WORKS. The 25 year old dimmer switch was probably wired wrong in the first place but it certainly does not work well with this new fan.

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Hey I have the Inovelli Red Fan/Light controller and my the only useful speed is medium-low, Medium is just full power, and my 10,000cfm monster fan just leaps into action. Basically the controller is worthless.

I just picked up the Sonoff iFan04-L which are supposedly pre-capped for US 120v fans. Curious if you have any advice on the Inovelli. Is it likely the caps that are making this perform so poorly?

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For the Inovelli Medium Low, Medium, and Medium High all get mapped to medium

From the driver:

switch (value) {
        case "low":
            return childSetLevel("${device.deviceNetworkId}-ep002",33)
        break
        case "medium-low":
        case "medium":
        case "medium-high":
            return childSetLevel("${device.deviceNetworkId}-ep002",66)
        break
        case "high":
            return childSetLevel("${device.deviceNetworkId}-ep002",99)
        break
        case "auto":
            return childSetLevel("${device.deviceNetworkId}-ep002",1)
        break
        case "on":
            return childOn("${device.deviceNetworkId}-ep002")
        break
        case "off":
            return childOff("${device.deviceNetworkId}-ep002")
        break
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Yeah I think the issue is that the lower speeds are meant for a 220v fan, or something. I read the same thing about the Sonoff iFan03, which is why the iFan04 exist[ed].

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Based on the response from @thebearmay it looks like you can just update the driver. Set it up to something like:

Low, 10
Med-low, 20
Med, 30
Med-high, 40
High, 50

I just picked arbitrary values but you can adjust them to suit your needs.