I have several Eve Energy smart outlooks using matter over threads and have added them to my hub device list. They seem to work just fine for a while, then they stopped responding to on/off commands from the hub. In home kit, they are still responding correctly. So what am I doing wrong?
Patrick
Curious which boarder router you have joined them to? I have one of these coming tomorrow. I only care about the energy reading. I don't want to control the on/off cycle.
Do the energy readings continue to refresh on Hubitat, or do they stop as well?
Sorry, energy readings are not available on hubitat with these devices. They do not even show up in the home app on iPhone. You have to use the Eve app to see the energy reading. Apologies for the late reply, but I only saw your post a few minutes ago.
Thanks. The first one was DOA, and the second I ordered dropped off only a few hours after joining it to my Apple TV. I was able to get readings through Home Assistant, but at 30 second reporting intervals it wasn’t as useful as I needed. And dropping off by itself is intolerable.
Returned the Eve Energy and bought a Sinope Zigbee plug for the $5 less. It is solid in the same location and reports every few seconds which is perfect for my needs.
I created virtual switches for each of my Eve Energy switches in hubitat, and then populated them into homekit, and created a bunch of rules mapping their on/off states in the home app--four rules for each. The hub monitors the outdoor temperature and turns on the electric blanket shortly before bedtime. The hub monitors the temperature in my meditation room and compares it to the thermostat heat set point and turns on/off a radiator to keep that room in line with the rest of the house. My meditation room has a door curtain separating it from the rest of the house, and it can get quite cold in there otherwise. Another one is paired to a leak detector to turn off the washing machine if the sink the washing machine pumps its water into overflows to minimize the flooding in my basement. The virtual switch scheme works, but it lack elegance. And the homekit automation system is really clunky compared to the hubitat rule machine.
If you have HA, you can bring Matter devices that are missing capabilities back into HE via HADB so you can use Rule Machine. This is what I did for the missing power readings when the Eve Energy outlet was brought into Hubitat via Matter. But if there's no device capability missing, I would simply enable Matter on the Hubitat hub and bring them in to automate with RM.
Only problem was that as soon as I saw that the Eve Energy Thread plug dropped off so quickly, I had visions of other problematic HomeKit devices from the past. Many people confirmed that Thread devices have been very flakey for them, while Matter over IP devices have not. So I ran back to good old Zigbee and it delivered in spades. The Sinope plug is well made and runs circles around the Eve Energy plug, without the stability or compatibility headaches.
I do not have home assistant. I tried to set it up on one my Windows machines, but the installation and setup procedures are not accessible to the blind. However, my current implementation is working just fine. I have not seen my Eve Energy devices drop off, but they simply do not respond to on/off commands and do not update when I use homekit to turn them on/off. My Eve Weather device, on the other hand, is simply a mess. It works for about five minutes, and ten the battery reads 0%, and the temperature reads 1127 degrees or some other totally ridiculous number. And this is not, I repeat, not a hubitat problem. Homekit shows the same flukey readings as well. So I now have a YoLink weather sensor, and i am quite happy with it as it has a ton of features. For example. I have a rule that records the high and the low for the day which is a little different from the broadcast weather reports. So far, my high temperature for the year was 95, and the low was -6 occurring on 7/30 and 1/22 respectively . I plan to reset these numbers on 6/21, and see how that differs from year over year as well as day by day. What I would really like to see is a device that tracks snowfall. I believe we have blown right past our annual snowfall of 100 inches per annum this year. And it does not stop snowing until the first week in May around here.
I did convert my Philips Hue hub to use matter, and once the hubitat generic matter bridge came up to speed, everything is working seamlessly there. I am thinking of replacing all my Eve Energy devices with Philips Hue smart plugs. I believe the hub connects to its peripherals using zigbee, and then communicates with other hubs using matter. This has improved the performance and reliability of those peripherals as they appear on both hubitat and Echo. Nothing seems to stop functioning, and I have some quite elaborate rules. There is one feature missing, however. In the Hue app, it is possible to turn on/off motion sensors but that is not making it to hubitat, or even to homekit. I have a use case where if the roomba is moving around, I do not want the lights turning on in response to motion in my basement. Here I has to go to ifttt. My particular model of the roomba is the J-series which does not need light to navigate. But even here, the Hue ifttt applets cannot turn on/off motion sensors. So when roomba starts, it triggers an ifttt applet to turn on a virtual switch, "roomba busy," and the Lights on Motion rule for that motion sensor is disabled when that switch is on. And so on with another applet, when the roomba ends its job.
Are you using JAWS? Curious what you use. I know very little, but learned a small amount when I was writing the early documentation for Hubitat. Surprised that HA has not met this need, but I know the particular reason that this has been a high level priority for Hubitat.
To me, drop-off and unresponsive is the same thing. Probably what you're saying is correct, but I didn't examine it very far. I've had such a bad experience with anything that joins to the Apple TV, except for my Refoss/Meross HomeKit Garage Door opener.
I don't have their weather sensor, but I did recently add their hub, some motion sensors, a relay and a contact sensor to my kit. I like their stuff very much and I'm intriged by their new local hub (which is sold out). The local hub is very expensive at $200 USD, so I'll be looking for the deals when and if they come up. I've joined a Yolink motion sensor and relay with a device to device connection for my mailbox notification. Impressive range, becuase my community mailbox is very far down the street. I wanted that to be very reliable, so the Yolink relay closes the contacts on a Zigbee button joined to HE. This gives me fully local notifications from the Yolink motion sensor, without their local hub that just came out.
Yuck! I moved from Toronto to Vancouver Island two and a half years ago. I don't miss that weather at all.
Yes, Hue is Zigbee. The Hue Zigbee devices can join directly to Hubitat too. I use the bridge for my lighting to keep Zigbee bulbs off my Hubitat Zigbee network. I know there's been some updates to the Hue integration, but I don't see any place for Outlet discovery, or Motion sensors, just lights. The Hue Integration on HA is very capable, and supports Motion sensors as well as lights. However, like Hubitat, Home Assistant also does not list outlet support. If you have a Zigbee controller on HA, you can join their outlet directly, just as you can on Hubitat.
Very fruitful discussion here.
I am using the Philips Hue door contact sensors. My old sengled sensors became unreliable, and buying batteries from Amazon is becoming problematic--old batteries with less than half of their life left. However, I am happy with the new contact sensors. I am also using several Hue motion sensors. Using them over Matter is even better than connecting the hub to theHue using zigbee.
For my mailbox I am using YoLink vibration sensors. Since my mailbox is attached to my garage, the act of opening and closing the door triggers the sensors. I also mounted vibration sensors to my washer and dryer, and for the first time I can tell when they are done. In addition to being blind, I am deaf. Some people are too stupid to use the doorbell and knock on the storm door, and there is just no way for me to hear that. However, the sensor is so sensitive that the dogs barking from five feet away trigger it.
YoLink is very nice. I do have the hub, but it was under $90 for me at the time. I think I got in under the window before their market overran their ability to supply.
I mainly use NVDA, which I consider to be superior to JAWS, but I also have JAWS on my computer for those use cases where NVDA is inadequate.
I live right across the Lake from Toronto. I do have an invitation to move to Vancouver--a Tibetan monastery wants me to live there. I am an ordained monk, and they are trying to boost their population. However, I prefer living alone with my two dogs, and I actually enjoy the snow , except when I have to shovel my driveway. My dogs think the snow is a blast too.
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