Elevation C7: Possible faulty z-wave radio?

How can you remove S0? My Aeotec recessed door sensor gen 5 keeps pairing like that and I seem to have no control over it - no options available. Also it is no longer working properly - open event works but closed does not unless I press and hold the internal button to wake it up or something.

Very odd... note: it does work fine on the C-4.

Zooz 4-in-1 sensors have no hardware-based way of choosing security level, so on a C7 they pair as S0. In S0 they don't work well and appear to screw up the mesh. I can get them to pair without security via a USB secondary controller and PC Controller software. Not sure if this solution works for all devices.

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Yeah I have a secondary controller (3 actually - a Z-Stick5, UZB-7, & UZB-3) but would prefer NOT to have to have it running all the time. Unless there is a way to move the device from the controller to the gateway... in the PC Controller SW somehow.

When you join the device to the network using the secondary controller you are joining it to the main Hubitat network. You can then remove the secondary controller.

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Oh okay, very cool!!!! I did not know that thanks. I thought I was stuck having to have a 2ndary controller running. Will give that a try!

Here were my steps:

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Am trying this now!!!!!

:boom: BOOM :boom:

Thank you!!!! Worked great and now my device is responding like it did with the C-4!!

Migration can continue..

I did not even realize you could do that with a secondary controller.... also S0 is really messed up no wonder older ZW+ locks are having so many issues..

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Yeah this is how I did it. Got to do a few more but as everything is working I'm not in a rush yet.

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I wonder if for now (barring a new release with fixes) including devices via the secondary controller is a better way to go? With my laptop I can walk around and get closer to things like switches etc.

:thinking:

(when you have a hammer....)

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So, without additional hubs or controllers, that mostly leaves "remove the device completely".

I have a hard time finding ANY temp sensors that look like they're decent. Thoughts?

About the only other one is the Aeotec and they get some poor reviews.

I'm thinking about using a Samsung Button for now (but, not sure how often the temps update from that).

Zigbee, most have temperature. I wouldn't buy a battery powered Z-Wave device unless it was a 700 series chip. The Sensative sensor is now 700, but it's a bit pricey for what you get.

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you can also just leave it joined and disable it in the device list.. click on the x at the top .. that is what i do. then if you need it for a hanging device in a pinch you dont hqave to go through all that crap.. it even still works disabled. but hubitat doesnt look for it.

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Checking that out on Amazon, they don't look promising. Especially not for the price.

23% 1 star vs 33% 5 star, with a lot of comments about early failure and terrible battery life. :frowning:

Guess for now, I'll just use that Samsung Button. Not sure how often it updates/reports though. But, it's cheap. :slight_smile:

I'm afraid that I just joined your unfortunate group - take a look at (just the first page of a log):

Please note: I have had a very successful migration to a C7. I just don't know what happened!
Suddenly everything fell apart! Perhaps a switch started to go bad... Very frustrating, but I have to start my detailed analysis on this matter. What's interesting is that doing a shutdown, followed later by rebooting seems to steady the network....

Agreed. My experience with battery powered z-wave devices is they are a coin flip if they work or cause big problems. Even identical devices. One will work. One will cause mesh problems.

For anything battery powered, zigbee has worked very well for me. Save z-wave for mains powered devices.

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I couldn't agree more with your comment about Zwave for mains powered devices and Zigbee for battery powered ones. And of course, that is one of the strengths of Hubitat - it's flexibility to handle both types of devices.
I've also used the AeoTec multisensor, and the Zooz 4 in 1.
They are back in my "useless device drawer".
It's my opinion that performance for those devices would probably be better on HomeSeer or SmartThings (your mileage may vary).
Nonetheless, Zigbee devices of that type are faster and cheaper, so why not use them?

I can confirm that inbound sensors are sending/receiving the same message multiple times within a short period this AM:

dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:58.428 am infoPorch Multisensor UV index is 0
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:58.101 am infoPorch Multisensor UV index is 0
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:58.004 am infoPorch Multisensor UV index is 0
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:57.677 am infoPorch Multisensor UV index is 0
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:57.516 am infoPorch Multisensor illuminance is 38 Lux
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:57.193 am infoPorch Multisensor illuminance is 38 Lux
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:57.104 am infoPorch Multisensor illuminance is 38 Lux
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:56.880 am infoPorch Multisensor illuminance is 38 Lux
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:52.937 am infoPorch Multisensor battery level is 100%
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:52.633 am infoPorch Multisensor battery level is 100%
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:52.294 am infoPorch Multisensor battery level is 100%
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:52.010 am infoPorch Multisensor battery level is 100%
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:51.156 am infoPorch Multisensor humidity is 50%
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:50.822 am infoPorch Multisensor humidity is 50%
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:50.643 am infoPorch Multisensor humidity is 50%
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:50.540 am infoPorch Multisensor humidity is 50%
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:50.349 am infoPorch Multisensor temperature is 53.1°F
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:50.057 am infoPorch Multisensor temperature is 53.1°F
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:49.777 am infoPorch Multisensor temperature is 53.1°F
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:49.575 am infoPorch Multisensor temperature is 53.1°F
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:48.198 am infoPorch Multisensor temperature is 53.1°F
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:48.091 am infoPorch Multisensor temperature is 53.1°F
dev:1572020-10-16 11:08:48.040 am infoPorch Multisensor temperature is 53.1°F

These are aeotec gen 5 multisensors. Having that device awake that long to send that many messages will surely kill the batteries soon. Almost all of my battery powered sensors are doing this.

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I'm seeing a lot of duplicate messages from various devices. Not sure if that's a logging issue--or if there are repetitive things crossing the Z-Wave network.

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yep me too..