So I got the server setup on a Raspberry Pi. Seems to work fine if I go straight to the server. BUT from the Echo Speaks app when I try to do the Amazon login I keep getting an error. UnknownOperationException. Any idea what else it can be?
The local service seems to be correct:
Okay. I reinstalled and now I was able to login. BUT Echo Speaks says I'm not logged in... hmmm
Local server:
BUT Echo Speaks:
I wish I understood this interface better. Any clues for the clueless?
Man oh man. I keep doing it, but keep getting the same results. The Amazon login works, but Echo Speaks still thinks "I'm no longer logged in"
Any other ideas from anyone?
Can anyone clarify whether there will be an official release of Echo Speaks that tackles the Heroku problem. I hate to go the rpi route only to have an alternate supported version be introduced at the last minute.
Look at posts above.
5 days ago Tony mentioned he may not meet the 28th date:
My experience is that setting up a local server is EASY. Getting the Echo Speaks app to use it has been impossible. GRRRRRRRR
In case the prior responses aren’t clear, the answer is essentially, “yes, probably, at some point. Maybe soon, maybe not so soon.”
The developer, like most of us, (including those of us that aren’t software developers) has professional and personal responsibilities that understandably come first.
He doesn’t owe us an explanation, detailed timeline/roadmap or any commitment of any sort, really.
Whether you choose to pay temporarily for Heroku’s app hosting, roll your own server at home (which isn’t very difficult even for those of us that don’t really have a clue how any of this stuff works, thanks to the efforts of other knowledgeable community members), or go without the functionality of Echo Speaks for a period of time that is impossible to know with certainty, is up to you.
I’m happy to wait for the official release, although trying to get a local server running looks like fun, but at this time of year I don’t really have the time.
The latest Heroku email talks about their Eco Dynos plan, 1000 hours a month shared across all your dynos for $5 a month. My stats say 12 hours used so far this month, so that should easily cover my usage for the time being 
Running my Echo Speaks Cookie Authorization server on a Raspberry Pi Zero W. (Purchased a few years ago for $10 - not worth today's scalper prices. 
) Take that, Heroku!
Somewhat "slightly" off topic question. I know with Heroku you could run your Echo devices in a completely different VLAN than your HE hub. (I never got around, yet, to moving my echo's into my IoT VLAN.) Is that still the case with the local echo speaks server?
For example:
HE hub & ESS in VLAN10
Echo devices in VLAN20
Does everything still operate the same at that point? Or does the ESS need to be in VLAN20 as well?
Just wanted to say thanks!
Didn't know you could run Linux on a windows 10 pro 64 bit machine. Learn something new everyday.
Been running fine for about a week in Windows 10 with a minimized cmd window.
Haven't tested the batch file I made and put in the windows startup folder yet. Been many years since I made a batch file.
Initially I tried using virtual box and had it running but could not connect. But then I learned I didn't need it.
It was pretty easy to setup in Windows just using the above posts.
I installed Debian from the youtube video @ralph.vasquez posted Echo Speaks / Heroku end anxiety support group. See one solution below. 
- #82 by ralph.vasquez
The video installs Ubuntu but I installed Debian.
Then I install Echo Speaks as per @vmsman instructions Echo Speaks / Heroku end anxiety support group. See one solution below. - #58 by vmsman
I also had to use @Scottdogster tip Echo Speaks / Heroku end anxiety support group. See one solution below. - #61 by Scottdogster
Then finished off setting up through the Hubitat Echo Speaks app
thanks again.
Thanks a lot, @NoWon!
Your post is a real breath of fresh air! By the price of a Raspberry Pi 4 I bought a Mini PC that runs Windows 11 Pro from Ali Express, but I didn't know how to make Echo Speaks work on that OS.
I will implement the solution over the weekend, but thanks in advance for your input!
Local server up & running!
No docker, no WSL2. Works like a champ.
Installed Raspberry Pi Desktop on Hyper-V Win10 Pro (basically a Virtual Machine); make sure you assign a static or reserved IP in your router for the VM after installation.
When installing, give it 2GB RAM; I tried lower initially but it always failed.
After installation you can drop it; I dropped mine to 512MB. Works just fine.
My Win10 Host & VM + Hubitat all run on different sub-net/vlans; 192.168.10.x and 192.168.60.x.
Could log in successfully into the local "cookie server" on the VM.
Took many, many tries to get the damn cookie to set/stick.
Eventually reverted to Firefox Private browsing / Incognito mode for it to stick; definitely seems to be a caching issue of some kind.
So far so good! Hope this gives some guidance / alternative to other folks.
PS. I used OPTION 2 / ALTERNATIVE of the fine guide @vmsman released at Echo Speaks Local Cookie Authorization Server - ScottiByte's Discussion Forum.
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I got this running on a VirtualBox Ubuntu VM last night using @vmsman post info. Still hoping for an official app, or something that can run native on HE as I have 2 spare C5 sitting here doing pretty much nothing. May have to score a Pi from my son if he has any still laying about.
@rjterry21 It's not likely that this could ever be an app on Hubitat. Really what folks are seeing is that apps like Cast All The Things CATT Server (used by CATT Director), Echo Speaks cookie authorization server, Monocle Camera RTSP/RTP server, and a huge list of others are ancillary apps to Hubitat Elevation that serve to augment home automation. The longer you do home automation, the more of these apps that you find. That's why my YouTube channel is devoted to learning how to deploy infrastructure to support LXD and Docker containers which are the ideal lightweight structures to support these functions. Many folks out here want to use a Raspberry Pi to do these things and that's fine for a one-off solution. You will discover more and more of these functions over time and having a very small compact server like the Minisforum UM350 with 16GB of memory can host 15 LXD container instances with no problem for barely more than a Pi which comes with no storage and only 8GB of memory max. Check out my channel at https://youtube.com/@scottibyte and especially this video on that little server. Cheap Self Hosting Server - YouTube
Thanks for the feedback. I have a spare micro dell here that I could use to setup for all these services if I needed that many.
ATM this is the only one and I have this headless VM running as a service on Windows startup on my home server/media server. It's extremely rare it's offline, and if it is, I have bigger problems. It's also my BI DVR server and has other integrations than just HA.
Can LXD run on other distros? Honestly, though I'm not skilled in Linux (though not a n00b), I don't particularly like the out of box "never root" approach of Ubuntu. TBH, I'm an old IBM Power Systems (mostly AS/400) guy 30+ years now.
@rjterry21 LXD is available for a fairly board list of Linux Distros. Unlike Docker, LXD server has no Windows variant. If LXD is run under Windows, it would have to be in a VM (Hyper-V preferred over Virtualbox for performance) or with Distrod to get the systemd daemon working, LXD can work in WSL2. I am not sure what you mean about the out of the box "never root" approach of Ubuntu. The default user account for Ubuntu is ubuntu and it has root privilege added. The only thing that Ubuntu does differently is to disable direct login to the "root" account for security. You can enable the root account in Ubuntu, but I do not recommend that for security reasons. Instead, add the sudo group to an account that needs root acess. I prefer to use Ubuntu server (not desktop) on a target system and I run it headless with ssh as my primary interface along with LXD Dashboard as a GUI. Ubuntu Server is VERY stable and efficient. You can run LXD server on Fedora, Debian, openSUSE, Ubuntu, Alpine Linux, Arch Linux and Gentoo. LXD support is baked into the kernel on these and then all you do is configure it. I have several basic videos on setting up this infrastructure step by step. Glad your VM is an always online one. That's a requirement for this type of infrastructure to be useful.
Thanks for the instructions @vmsman. Its a nice feeling to no longer have a dependancy on Heroku.
Download the Hubitat app
