Discussion about the C7

I run 2 Hue bulb equipped lamps in our bedroom on them as only the Hue hub can manage power recovery with them. (as in preventing them from turning on when power is restored at 2am in the morning).

I also have at least 3 other bulbs throughout the house that get powered off at the switch and having them on Hubitat is a great way to stuff your mesh up ime.

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I didn't realize that bulbs could reinforce the mesh.

As I'm getting more into the Hubitat lifestyle, I guess I'm going to have to research about backup power for the hub. I'm getting a standby generator in the Spring, (long waiting list), and have a fantasy about building a GenMon system, although I'm understanding the generator company is encrypting stuff to thwart third parties.

This is a good mini-ups I've had experience with.

It can also handle some 5-8 port switches as well.

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Thanks for the link. Are there ways to gracefully shut down HE programmatically?
(I haven't started searching yet, so sorry if this has been addressed a lot already.)

I know you can make an http "post" to http://yourhubip:8080/hub/reboot
to get the hub to reboot..

Maybe there is a shutdown option as well. Have not tried that.

I wrote a guide here:

it'll work with any backup power solution.

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Eggzellent!!

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That's cool thanks! also I might add if you are using a Ring Extender Gen 2 then you can test for power being either on "battery" or "mains" as well.

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Now you're just showing off. :wink:

Seriously, great contribution! :smiley:

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Guilty as Charged! :laughing:

:+1:

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I do this using Node-red (nodered.org). The basic logic and steps are here Shutdown and restart Hub in case of power outage (Node-red solution) - LONG READ.

The approach that @dJOS linked to is similar. The main difference is that

  1. Node-red is an external solution (not Hubitat native)
  2. I shut down the hub after 15 minutes and if the power comes back on, it restarts the hub. I figured that if there was no power, the automations would not work in any case. If the outage is long enough for the UPSs to run out of battery, the hub would restart in any case when power came back.
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If you're not using hub security, the easiest way is probably HTTP Momentary Switch driver by @ogiewon and the shutdown URL http://hubitat.local/hub/shutdown

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ogiewon/Hubitat/master/Drivers/http-momentary-switch.src/http-momentary-switch.groovy

Everything has been working great for me for the past few weeks - until last night. My wife came upstairs and complained that the patio lights werenā€™t turning off. I had to manually flip them off because they were unresponsive. Today, more devices arenā€™t responding. I looked at the Zwave details and many devices have crazy routes with 3-5 devices in them. The hub reboots nightly so that has not fixed this issue. Sigh - everything worked so well for so long....

Crazy routes aren't really a big deal if you have all zwave plus and no zwave. They'll fix themselves if they run into problems. I'd check to make sure all your devices have something in the clusters column in settings, zwave details and you log is clean of errors. If there is a device hosing up the radio a safe shutdown and pull power from the wall for a minute should clear up the radio, but you'll still need to track down the misbehaving device. @gopher.ny might be able to take a look and see what device is causing the issue.

Yeah, I shut it down and pulled the power earlier today and everything is back up. Iā€™ll need to figure out which device may be at issue. I suspect it is my Zooz plug.

Part of the issue I'm seeing is that certain bad routes never clear without an exclude/include.. I see this right now at a clients - I have 2 Zen23 V3s (4.01 firmware) that are limping along a 9.6kbits - refresh/repair/power off/waiting a few weeks - nothing works. The devices themselves either cannot find a good route through the hub or are not trying even though there are plenty available nearby with excellent routes/speed including repeaters etc.

i have also seen bad routes and nothing works.. havn't tried re-pairing them.. same as you mostly zooz. i think there are issues with their firmware and the 700 where they don't recalculate routes correctly.

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Came into my office this morning and my ceiling fan isnā€™t working. I hit refresh and it is stuck in ā€œPendingā€ status. I canā€™t really check many other devices at this stage due to it being 4 AM, but I did see that my minimoteā€™s button presses are registering. The ceiling fan is using an in-wall Vision remote and has been rock solid on ST and Hubitat over the years.

Everything worked well for 2-3 weeks and now in the last week, Iā€™ve seen issues twice. I suspect Iā€™m going to find several devices not working later today and maybe a power pull on the hub resolves it (or maybe not). At this stage, I need another alternative. I donā€™t have time to sit on the forums and regularly read dozens of posts to try to figure stuff out. I know itā€™s Christmas so I donā€™t expect immediate help, but Iā€™m getting pretty frustrated. Maybe itā€™s the Zooz ZEN25 device and maybe I should yank it until those issues are resolved (if they ever are). Or maybe I should do what I said in the original post of this thread and just move on.

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And it just started working again by itself. Need to test some other devices which weren't working earlier to see if they're working also. This is the frustration with Hubitat - when it works, it is incredible but these glitches are all too frequent and even my wife notices and makes comments.

This morning my office left office lamp did not respond to a single tap. I looked at the right office lamp and it showed "on" even though I turned it off last night. When I refreshed the device page it then showed as off and worked on the "first" tap.

I am going to add a repeater to make sure everything is okay. I wonder if the zigbee radio is weaker on the C-5 because this always worked on the C-4 in the same hub location.