DIN Control Modules for USA

I am trying to find a product just like this (http://www.modelighting.com/products/edin-plus/modules/din-03-04-plus/)

I am able to find them online but all over seas to order. Also if there is something comparable and cheeper that would be nice too. Definitely need dimming capability!

Thanks in advance!

Can you describe what you are trying to accomplish?

Would a (or multiple) dimmer relay(s) like this one meet your needs?

You will want to ensure that whatever you get is compatible with your hub:

https://docs.hubitat.com/index.php?title=List_of_Compatible_Devices

We do have built in support for the modelighting eDin controller, including dimmers and keypads.

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Sorry I should have explained more, I am working on redoing a lot of my kitchen and there are 14 light switches, I want to have all the electrical run into a panel that has a din bar in it then have something like modelighting inside to have all the switches control and dim by. Only thing is I would have to get all the modelighting from over seas and they are kinda up their in price for what I would need with customs and extra taxes. Or I guess the better question would have been, does anyone know if there is a dealer for these or reseller in the states?

@mike.maxwell @Sebastien

I am trying to build my house as it would be done like control 4, just not the price of control 4.

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i would just blast an email to: sales@modelighting.com

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I would follow Mike’s advise. :smiley:

These devices don't seem to be designed for use in the US electrical system, at least not the one the OP posted:

230V AC +/- 10% 50/60Hz, single phase

US is 120V, not 230V. It doesn't appear to be UL listed and would not be NEC approved for use in the US. So, just noting, buyer beware. A licensed electrician would refuse to install this in the US because it would fail an electrical inspection (assuming that electrician went through the effort to ramp up the voltage to 230V via a transformer to begin with to even get it to work)

Yeah it looks like all their stuff actually is 230v

So they are out of the question then, now back to needing something just like that but for the US.

Hope someone knows of something like this!

Looking at something like these, anyone know if these could have a driver made for them or something like them? I rather the leviton one if possible.

http://www.dalicontrolmodule.com/sale-12753922-din-rail-devices-home-light-control-module-smart-wifi-control-fcc-approved.html

https://www.leviton.com/en/products/drddp-a40

@Sebastien @dman2306

Doubtful. Leviton aeema to use a proprietary communication system and that other one maybe be, but it’d require someone to reverse engineer it.

Do Clipsal / Schneider still distribute their C-Bus product range in the US? I have a feeling they backed out.
They made DIN 4 and 8 channel dimmers in 230v and 110v versions.
E.g. https://updates.clipsal.com/ClipsalOnline/Files/Brochures/W0000353.pdf

You will still have difficulties getting a Hubitat driver for these but they can be connected via MQTT with an additional serial or Ethernet interface DIN module. Not low cost though.

I use that system for all my house lighting here in the UK.

Shelly do offer DIN mount modules for their modules, which must be the cheapest path if they are acceptable quality and regulations wise.

https://www.shelly.si/en/accessories-for-shelly-products/43-shelly-1-din-bracket.html

And there’s dual brackets available often 3D printed

I just saw that Shelly has a Pro line up on the way out, they actually have one out now from the line up, Ethernet connected!

I’ll have to reach out to Shelly because I don’t see one that is a dimmer. But could be in their lineup soon. And I believe they already have a driver for it. I really want Ethernet since it will be in a cabinet in a closet where I am having the electrician run all the lights so I don’t have more then a scene controller.

What are your thoughts on Shelly product with hubitat?

@kevin

I don’t use enough Shelly products to have a view really but I’m sure others do. The ones I have work fine though. I have seen some posts regarding overheating but I suspect those were wiring related. The Pro range seems nice.

The Ethernet will always be WiFi because of regulations for low voltage and high voltage coexistence in wiring boxes. Having something that’s readily controllable from Hubitat is an important consideration if you aren’t into writing code. {edit looks like it does have a wired Ethernet connection… interesting}

I am surprised DIN mounting isn’t more popular in the US and there doesn’t seem an obvious alternative. The 3D mounts won’t look brilliant but the Pro range could be if they intend a dimmer for 110V usage.

Bear in mind also that dimmers for incandescent bulbs are a fairly short term solution as the bulbs are being phased out. Already quite hard to find over here. So make sure they handle LED loads well.

@johnny.dearing Honestly, instead of going through this have you thought of just doing Lutron instead? It's pretty bullet proof...

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We don’t have the Lutron line available over here but it seems popular and very well regarded.. must be a strong option.

@rlithgow1

Does Lutron work with hubitat? Also is Lutron able to be set up without a dealer? I see they have din modules but don't see any for sale from a quick google search, need 120v.

Lutron's HomeWorks, which has DIN rails, is a completely a dealer installed and maintained system. No ability for end user programming. (It's available in the UK too). You can do some control via Hubitat with QS, but not QSX controllers.

Some people fake a panelized system with Lutron RadioRA 2. You put an up-to-6-button keypad in the living space and hide the actual dimmers in a local closet or home run to an equipment room. It works, but you still need as many gangs as circuits.

In the US Control4 has a true panelized lighting product. It's probably the most affordable. It's dealer installed, but end users can do most programming. Controllable by Hubitat but requires Home Assistant too.

Yes lutron works with he directly via telnet on the pro bridge 2.... Farking fast.... Homeworks/Radio Ra requires the ra 2 bridge...same thing.... Lutron integration is built into HE