Differences Between C-5 and C-7?

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Version 420?

Interesting comment from @bravenel

I took a close look at the internal photos for the C5 and C7, looking at the z-wave chip. The C5 has an old Sigma Designs logo on the chip while the C7 chip has Silicon Labs logo (sort of like . Do note that the new series Silicon Labs 500 chips use the same logo as the 700 chips, so there's no guarantee we're looking at a 700 chip, but the chip is certainly changed from the C5 to the C7.

Of course, the photos are too blurry to read the chip numbers. Looks like that's intentional.

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Hmmm. Amazon shows the Hubitat Elevation is "unavailable" and don't know if or when it'll be back in stock.

Hubitat web shop is out of the non-US hubs.

Wonder if they're about to come out with the new one?

Alternative explanation: users fleeing Wink have bought out the inventory.

Well, keep in mind that technically he didn't say there would be a 700 chip.... He only agreed with me that for MY USES (which is to basically use the hub as a radio-only device, as I do my logic external to Hubitat) new hardware would be useless unless it included a 700 radio... :wink:

I agree. I'm just having fun trying to read the tea leaves. :tea:

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Nothing wrong with that! I enjoy the same activity often. lol

It has certainly been the case in the past, that many Tech vendors have needlessly upgraded their hardware in order to "goose up" revenues. As someone here pointed out, that may have been the unstated cause for Samsung ST move from the V2 to V3 hub.
Many of us here have requested a "PRO" version of the Hubitat Hub.
Even though it would not be suitable for many, if not most of the current clientele, it would appeal to a certain segment of the population (depending on price, of course). It could be viewed as a "hardware upgrade" - weather or not it was required. Many would jump at the chance and purchase it immediately. It would be accretive to overall revenues, and therefore a "win" for the company.

Amazon.com is now indicating the C-5 will be back in stock as of June 7th. Still nothing on Amazon.ca, but this isn't surprising. I just ordered directly from Hubitat and will have mine on Friday.

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Wait, it that a rack of "pi's" running on POE??
What are the Pi's, the 3 or the 4?
Cool !

Pi 4s, no POE though. I couldn't fit the POE hat in the mounts I wanted to use.

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So... I notice on the Hubitat web site that they are now selling the C-7... But still no one has an idea what is the difference between the C-5 and C-7, or the information is elsewhere... I'll have to keep looking I guess...

Edit: Okay, found it:

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I'd have particularly liked one that allowed a fixed IP. I know today's way is to set it on the router instead, but I have a Hub One that I am not interested in changing, and you can't release a reserved IP unless the device that used it is still listed in the connections. Means if you forget to release it when decommissioning the device you can't see or release the reserved IP, which means a router reset and bang - you've lost all the rest of your reservations too

Why not just use a different IP address? I'm assuming you're not out of available IP address reservations. Most people really do set IP reservations at the DHCP server level.

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And the ones that don't, should. :smiley:

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No, but it's a dumb ISP-provided modem. I had been setting devices to have router-set IPs, without realising the router did not have a tool in its options to clear them unless you could actually see the device in the recent login list. So over time I had thrown out faulty devices without reconnecting them to clear their reserved IP. Then when I went to add a camera one day, I accidentally assigned an IP that was already assigned to some old device - by simply editing the IP field when the device was connected - you see I wanted it in a different range not the one it had been given. This usually works, but on this occasion the router accepted my edit, but when the device was rebooted and went to connect, the router was offering the IP and then not letting it connect with that IP. There is no option on the router UI to list reserved IPs. Everything had to be reset!! Actually... maybe it is time we upgraded the router. It sounds incredibly stupid when written down :o

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If you have the ability, you could always create a virtual machine and then change the MAC address to the one that is reserved. Then spin it up, you shouldn't even need an OS (maybe), and then you can remove it.

Yes though, a new router would be better.

The advantage of setting the IP on the device itself is that if you need to swap out your router, there is very little work to be done, and if you buy a new device you just have the one thing to set IP on at a time. I had been keeping a table of assigned IPs, and if I had actually consulted it at the time there would have been no problem :smiley:

That is assuming your new router has same subnet if not then you would still need to configure the router.. or the device.

I think reserved is a bit more flexible since I don't need to physically access the device to make changes. Usually it's easier to get to the router. :grin:

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This 100%. I'd go further and say it is a lot more flexible.

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