Hi potenital EU users!
Just ordered mine last friday and the HE team sent it out the door, before I got the order confirmation e-mail, almost! Hehe.
Looking forward to get it and study like crazy to find good stuff to control.
Any one else out there from Norway?
Kind regards,
Roger That
Oslo, Norway
Hey, great!
I guess most of the same stuff is available in Sweden and Norway.
The quest have started. 
The plan is to start out small, with something like this:
The next step is to start with motion/door/windows to automate some lightning and radiator control when windows are open and during the night/away scenarios. The heat is what i spend money on. Hot water is included, so not much to gain there.
Though, electricity in Norway is the cheapest in the world, I guess, so spending too much on controling it, might not be too smart. It sould pay for itselves within a year or two, so the cost of each component must be farely moderate.
Have not decided on Alexa or Google Home yet. Not an easy choice I feel. Many cool integrations for Alexa for hubitat already, but no Norwegian support (not that it matters too much), but google Home does support native. But, not found too much HE posts on Google Home mini yet. Most seems to have gone for the Alexa. Hmm...
Must say it was pretty cool to save a note reminder when I put in the rib-steak and set several timers during cooking yesterday, fun stuff. The logic on Google with follow up and several commands at once, seems to get the better of me. Alexa seems to lag behind a bit here...
Also have a Samsung QLED 2019 and Sonos, so have a lot to play around with there as well. Tried the apps on the phone and can control it. Not too many functions work through ST on either of them. Input changes only work on Google, but opening netflix app, seems more of a challenge. Anyway, that was just some playing around to get the basics with both apps yesterday, so need more investigation... 
Been looking at the motion, temp and door/windows sensors from Xiaomi, and it looks interesting. Though, no order yet. Also Sonoff stuff might be a road, but again, just looking at what others have tried and learning from what is shared here. A LOT!!! :-o
So, I will keep on investigating the forums to at least try to see what is stable and works well, for a sane price.
Ikea stuff also looks cool, and we both have that fairly close to home.
Any shared experience for my long road ahead is really appreciated!!!
Kind regards
RogerThat
Oslo, Norway
Hi,
I am a Norwegian living in Norway and have been using Hubitat for some months now. I started out with SmartThings (ST) a couple of years ago, but after a major power outage where we lost both the hot water, the heating of the house and lights (my wife was not impressed...) I decided to try out the Hubitat. So far it has worked perfectly.
For now, I am using both Hubitat and ST, as my original ST system had grown "a bit" (way more than 120 units attached/controlled). I will spend some time to move one unit after the other from ST to Hubitat to make sure that everything works OK.
I am not sure if I would recommend the Xiaomi sensors (Zigbee) as they can be a bit tricky to keep stable in the system. I have a few temperature sensors from Xiaomi installed and they have been quite stable, but sometimes they just disappear from the system and need to be reinstalled - which can be a bit tricky.
I am using a lot of different products from different producers and if you are looking for stable and cheap sensors, take a look at Neo Coolcam. I have several sensors (40-50 units or something) from them (Z-Wave) and they have ALL been working perfectly for a very long time.
Also, I am using Google Assistant (Google Home Mini, Google Home Hub, Nest Hub Max, etc.) and everything works smoothly. "Open Door" (plus a security code) is working for my garage door...
In addition, I have also installed several Phillips Hue lamps (and the bridge) and lamps from IKEA in addition to Nest Hello (great to have the possibility to see and talk to visitors at the door by use of the Google system). So far, I have not found any solution to integrate the Nest Protect sensors and the Yale Doorman lock in the system. Hopefully, this will be possible sometimes later.
Great to hear that also others here in Norway are using the Hubitat!
-PA
Hei, hyggelig å høre fra noen norske her!
Yes, I read that many have a challenge to have the Xiaomi to be stable, for many reasons, but probably mostly mesh-related, I guess.
Have started to build a basket On AliXpress where I have the Neo Coolcam Stufff already chosen.
I have so far desided to stick to Z-wave pluss devices, so lets see if that will give a good stable solution over time.
Instead of going for a temp/humid. sensor, I now do some research on multisensor motion detectors. Why not do all in one, even if it is a tad expensive, when will save some on batteries, I guess.
My son have the HUE hub with a strip and a few bars already, so I found a bunch of nice priced GLEDOPTO lamps that actually works on the Hue system. They are not as good, but hey, for that pricecomparison, no problem! They also have a very cool kit for TV backlite strips.
The coolcam plugs seems to do the trick for my radiators and some other lamps in the guest area and so on.
Link to lampstore:
https://gledopto.aliexpress.com/store/3685003?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.46645fc2DGwfSf
Motion sensors is a hard one to choose. Also a good temperature device for main living room area is a little strugle to pick.
Did you try the Coolcam door/Z-Wave window sensors too?
I did not buy anything yet, so very open for input and experiences from this fantastic forum. I an IT guy and have an education in service electronics, so I just love this stuff!
It looks like I will end up with the Google home products for voice control. It seems to handle temperature sensors a bit better/easier, out of the box with Hubitat/Google home integration. But, still not sure, I might get both of them, they all have their strengts and weaknesses, as far as i have found until now...
Keep you all posted how I’m doing. Leaving for Asia trip tomorrow, so I plan to order on the road, so I have something to play with when i get back right before New Years Eve... Leaving the snow to backpack Cambodia, Vietnam and Thailand for almost a month, so Its a perfect time for study of all this!
Thank you so much for all advice!
Kind regard
RogerThat
Oslo, Norway
Hi, how nice of You!
Love the input and I think so far, you have all been spot on!
I get a bunch of fantastic tips on how to move forward, and I am so greatfull for that! Thank You so much!!!
I have also thought that Xiaomi stuff should be reliable, and I do think a bad mesh coverage might be the reason people experience drops. The protocol itselves should not be faulty. Many major vendors use this, so I actually have some faith.
The motion sensors looks really neat, and the temp/humid. Sensor also looks like a typical Xiaomi device, in a good way.
In the living room, I’m still looking for a good temp sensor with a good looking display for temperature. Not sure what to choose here yet. High priced, most of them...
The Ikea outlets sounds like a good tip to strengthen the mesh field, good tip!
I also looked at the same door lock from Danalock and it looks great. The other one from US, Alfred or what its named, seems like an overpriced hot new product, so I’ll pass on that one for now. But the Danalock V3 seems perfect for our needs, and does the same. Most keys-bodies in Norway are not round, so I have to use a solution like that one.
About the the black firday deal, Yeah, that was very nice. Not under $70 though, so the EU model came in just below $130 with shipment to Norway. I just should have bought too... Dangh... And I bet I get a fingerslap when the customs touch it (25% tax on top of that) I guess we as consumers also have to pay a lot extra for not joining the EU (Punishment, hahaha)
If may wife and I where not travelling tomorrow, I would have ordered a lot more on black friday, but so it goes. Without complaining, of course... hehe
Thanks for for wishes and amazing effort with good advice!
Love the spirit and will share what is to come!
Again, Thanks!
Kind regards,
RogerThat
Oslo, Norway
Hi again!
Just had a little conversation with a friend of mine regarding home automation. His story was simple.
Damn it, its all connected, and the house will be cold when the internet goes down.
I just told him about HE! Hahahaha Moaahhhahahaha
Simple, humble, but true!
Eat that, all others!
RogerThat
Xiaomi uses their own variant of Zigbee that is 'incompatible' with the standards. @mike.maxwell detailed the differences about a year ago. There's two ways that improve Xiaomi... 1) use their Hub in much the same way you use Hue's hub. 2) deploy repeaters that are friendly to Xiaomi... the Ikea device are well liked.
In other words, it IS the protocol 
and Xiaomi's intentional miss on matching spec. The community's expectation is that the newer line will be Zigbee 3.0 and will meet spec.
Bottom line, you pay the price of the cheaper Xioami in the form of drop offs.
Disclaimer: I have ZERO Xiaomi devices.. I am only 'parroting back' opinions I've read here in the Community.
I can recommend both the door/window sensors from Coolcam. I have several of them installed and I have never had any failure/problem with any of them.
Have a great trip to Asia!
@RogerThat Here's a visual from my zigbee mesh based on Xiaomi friendly repeaters. I have 2 HE hubs, one set up with Iris 3210-L repeaters that do not work with Xiaomi and the other setup with Ikea smart plugs for repeaters. You can see in this graphic how all of my devices connect and remain stable with the Ikea repeaters. This includes other non Xiaomi devices. When I tested to get this visual I could see where I had a weak spot in my mesh so I ordered another Ikea plug to deal with that.
Only way to integrate a Yale Doorman lock here in Sweden is through the Verisure unofficial mobile API. You don’t need the alarm with a subscription, the micro box and a free account is sufficient .
I have written a cloud driver for Verisure which supports most of the sensors and of course the lock. If you like to test just drop me a pm!
Hey,
That is a very nice tip, so thank you soo much for the information.
Seems like the mesh coverage is the culprit for the xiaomi devices to drop(probably other stuff too), and the IKEA plug sounds like a good repeater. Great tip, thanks, very helpfull!
Kind regards
RogerThat
Hey again.
The HE is now in house, my son picked it up while we travel.
Right now at Koh Chang in Thailand, after Cambodia, Siam Reap, Angkor Wat, then to Koh Rong Sanloem and Koh Rong.
Must say, Thailand lifts the trip to another level. Never seen more open corruption than in Cambodia, ever! 
Don’t think we ever try that again. Sad though, lovely people, but the contry is too corrupt to function properly.
Can’t wait to get my fingers on my HE, though...
Kind regards,
RogerThat
(Thailand) 
One of our active community members, @Angus_M, is in Thailand. Although I believe he might currently be visiting the US.
Hi, yeah. Was in the USA (Vegas) for work and a little holiday time, back in Thailand now, near Pattaya. Enjoying the new toys I got while in the USA (Nest Home Hub - the one with face recognition, the smaller Home Hub, Philips Hue Sync, la la la). I just finished rigging up the Sync box. So cool. I have all sorts of ridiculously flashing lights behind and around the TV now lol. My eyes are bleeding it's so cool.
Welcome to this beautiful country. Take care on the crazy and very dangerous roads. Where r u? If you are still on Koh Chang, take a look at Long Beach. A bit tricky to get to (and all the better for that) and absolutely stunning.
Long Beach, Koh Chang Tai, Ko Chang District, Trat, Thailand
https://maps.app.goo.gl/gHqLiwHj43NVpNX16
Not a zigbee repeater in sight, that's for sure 
Hi!
Yeah, still at Koh Chang.
At White Sand Beach, which also lives up to it's name well. Stunning here too!
Not sure if we pass Pattaya, but one never knows. Let you know if we do! 
View from the terrace.
Not complaining at all right now!
Hi guys, here a new user from Spain. I've received the C5 from Santa, a bit pricey because the customs...
(138€ at the front door).
My Zigbee mesh it's only with Xiaomi devices and 3 Sengled bulbs, without problems at the moment. As my C5 hub is a bit little far from the front door, I must wait to have some Zwave devices to built a solid mesh and try to link my Danalock lock. I talked with the Danalock helpdesk some days ago and they told me I must link the lock with the Danabridge gateway that they expect to put in the market in the first quarter of 2020.
I hope to progress in my set-up with your help, also I will try to share my experiences.
Kind regards, Angel
Hi @Carl that's a good news! Have you acomplished to do some automation with the lock? (Open, close...) How do you manage the diferent users and their passwords? Or you only can read the lock status?
Angel
Hi Angel,
I am also Spanish and I am thinking on buying the HE.
What’s your opinion on the product in Spain? I am asking because everything I see on the internet is US based. Is everything working? Anything to consider before buying?
Something important, when you said 138 € you meant VAT? So you had to pay 100 euros for the product + 138 euros for IVA and import taxes?
Because that's a lot! 
Thank you in advance,
Hi again, I’m back in the motherland, Norway.
Nice to see more new users from EU here, just great!
So far i have played and learned a bit, and status so far:
Xiaomi temp and humid sensors in every room connected and working. A bit tricky to join the hub, but reading posts and tips, its not so bad. Stable for now.
Xiaomi Xoor and window sensor on main door, and notifying me on the Hubitat Android app when operated with a message with date time and state.
Have more sensors to connect, also some buttons and magic cube, and also GLEDOPTO LED strip for the TV.
One GLEDOPTO E27 socket 12W connected and working great. Also use the GLEDOPTO remote and got this working parallell with HE, thats cool. Looks like more bulbs must be ordered.
Now I am looking for a good wall plugg to control heat ovens and lamps based on modes and motion detection. Any suggestions? I think the IKEA wall plugg is a bit big, but have some of you tried an affordable one that works with HE.
No lock ordered yet, but it looks like the Danalock V3 could work.
My big next question is if anyone have tried the ELKO Smart dimmers? They look great and can be used locally and maybe HE at the same time? That is my hope, but will they work... hmmm
This is as far as I have come yet, but getting further and further into this, and loving it!
Just a quick update, so just ask if I can help with what I have tried so far.
Kind regards
RogerThat
Oslo, Norway
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