I'm going to need to buy new garage door openers. Seems like 2 directons for me to go: Chamberlan with the MyQ or Genie. I have older garage door openers integrated into hubitat via zooz relays and such, but I'd love my next one to be amore native integration and not need zooz work arounds.
Any feedback from the group which of the 2 brands integrates better/easier/more user friendly??
I have a Chamberlain direct drive model. I linked it to Hubitat via RATGDO, and it has been working great! Completely bypasses MyQ for status and control, though that is still available if needed - it doesn’t interfere with it in any way. (I personally use both options.)
I like the Chamberlain products in general, but their ecosystem is trash. They have locked it up so you cannot use it for integration. The workaround is to purchase a Konnected or Ratgo device, and use that to integrate locally.
I don't have a strong opinion about the Genie either way, but from what I understand, you can use a relay like you currently do as the integration to Hubitat. Please double check this information, I am not positive they haven't locked up their stuff like the MyQ.
I had to replace my opener a few years ago, and the company I chose was a Genie oufit, so I asked for the most basic opener they had on the truck... I got a model 2128 and no regrets - it's given me zero issues and seamlessly enabled me to keep using my existing Zen17 GDO setup.
There's no GDO that incorporates entirely natively with Hubitat without some kind of additional help (e.g. RATGDO, Zen1x relay, other relay, BlaQ, etc), so just pick your poison and roll with it.
So are you saying with a chamberlain I wouldn’t even be able to do the zooz relay workaround like I am now?
Correct. Not without additional hardware or possibly some delicate soldering of wires in their stuff
If Chamberlain makes any non-MyQ models anymore (I have no idea), then using a plain relay (like Zen) should work fine.
With a MyQ model, using a Garadget inbetween the opener and the smart relay allows the smart relay to do basic opening/closing. To get the other MyQ bells-&-whistles incorporated, you'd need a RATGDO or BlaQ instead of the Zen/Garadget option.
Yuck. Big deterrent for me to go chamberlain especially since I have a full setup already working with the zooz relay. Sounds like Geini may be the better fit for me and just use my same setup to operate the doors.
Are you saying I CAN go my zooz solution for a MyQ setup but only have basic open and close ability in Hubitat, but the MyQ phone app would still work to provide those features or backup options?
I've never had a MyQ opener, so I don't know details. I just know a Garadget is necessary if you want to use a basic smart relay for the opener.
All you you need for a MyQ door is something like this to bridge from the relay to the door. The oem button does the secure communication with the opener. https://www.garadget.com/product/security-2-0-dry-contact-adapter/
That allows you to open and close the door via the relay just like you are pressing the button.
The Ratgdo or Konnected board give you more info back directly.
Gradaget=RATDGO or similar….right? Just want to make sure I’m understanding the terminology correctly
No, Garadget is not equivalent to those other is terms of capability. RATGDO and BlaQ are (basically) equivalent since BlaQ is pretty much just a nicely-packaged RATGDO, but Garadget is a different sort of device altogether.
Jeff provided the Garadget link above,
This looks like what I did with my current setup. It isn’t a smart switch but the wall switch has a clock and some other fancy features. I “hot wired” my zooz to the button.
Guess I could just do the same with the MyQ one if I went that route.
Super helpful everyone. So my takeaway is I shouldn’t expect a seamless auto integration without some workarounds. My best bet would be to do the “Hotwire” or garadget route and go with either of the openers.
Check out the openers with the motor on the end of the shaft. No overhead chain/belt stuff.
I have a Chamberlain MyQ GDO. I added a Konnected Blaq about 6 months ago that:
The only downsides to the Blaq for me are that Konnected registration uses a CASE-SENSITIVE USER NAME (which they admitted to me was an issue that they can't fix, given that they started with Amazon's AWS before case-insensitive user names were enabled and have many registered users that would have to re-register) and that firmware updates, while not frequent, are finicky (the last one took about 5 tries to complete).
Those are the most quiet and easiest to install. I’ve changed over to one of those and absolutely love it!
Using RATGDO or similar is really worth it.
This looks like the cleanest option to me, when dealing with MyQ (and I own at RATGDO) -
See: Hubitat – Konnected & Smart Garage Door Openers – Konnected
Ok....chiming back in here hoping yall may have some thoughts.....this is not Hubitat related, so if Mods see fit to delete this, so be it......but it does have to do with this topic.
I ended up doing the Chamberlan route. I did a diy garadget. Works great with my zooz relay. What is weird , however, is that every once and a while the garage door opener stops responding to the wall button (and then also the zooz relay) all togther. The clickers still work, but the wall button doesn't. When this happens, the LED on the wall button is also off. This is usually on 24/7 when power is on. If I unplug and replug the opener 120V power, this fixes it on my non battery backup opener. On my other opener that has battery back up, I have to actually disconnect the button wire from the overheat motor area and then plug that back in.
It isn't a wiring issue nor a faulty button issue because the same thing has happened to both openers......and one of the times, happened to both at the same time. Is it possible the zooz relay is doing something weird to where the system sees a problem and defaults to the buttons off?
Oddly, when this does happen, the MyQ diagnostics all read normal.
This has happened maybe 3 times in the month an a half. If I can't sort the issue I'll have to resort to buying a konnected, but I'd love to keep my "free" solution going if I can.
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