Troubleshooting to fix issues by the Hubitat community, which also includes Hubitat staff, is only possible/useful when the information required to fix an issue is provided.
For example, after reading @PeterontheMoor's post in this thread, I checked their posting history. While they certainly have documented their issues with the C-8, there was zero followup on their part providing details necessary to address the issue; leading to this post from @mike.maxwell
I have zero doubt that @PeterontheMoor encountered serious zigbee issues with their C-8. Unfortunately, without details on their setup, it is impossible to know the underlying cause, or fix the problem.
So I bought one, got here today and have migrated to it already.
Things I notice (with my setup):
65 devices on my hub, virtual are in there and Twillio for message notifications, so not all are Z-Wave of course, but at least 55-60 are. The new hub boots up much faster, and going between pages and devices is much quicker.
migration was a breeze as always, updated my C8 to the latest code today that specifically called out migration items, moved it all over to the C8-Pro and was done in about 10 minutes. Only issue was my Sharptools integration, but that was my fault, just had to update my dashboards.
I have 12 apps with about 30 sub rules/apps under them. Specifically Rule Machine where the bulk are, I am hoping these process quicker (not that they were taking minutes before) and make the experience better and respond faster.
Now I have two C8 hubs I no longer need...my fault for buying stuff I dont need
I hope that with this new memory and CPU we finally get dashboards that dont look like my 2 year old nephew built them, this is my one complaint, everything else is great but the dashboards suck and we all know it. Here's to new hardware and more overhead to do a better looking GUI for Hubitat.
With that said, I wouldn't trade out Hubitat at all, I have it all integrated into HomeKit, it has matter support, it works with my hue (outdoor) lights, my Xmas tree smart lights, blah blah blah. I gave a friend my old C7 hub so he could setup his new pool house and pool area with automated lights, "turn on the pool party" type of stuff where his pool lights come on, Sonos starts playing, etc. He loves how simple it is and how he doesn't need the cloud to run his stuff.
But seriously, I would have rather seen someone work on the dashboards to give me options like Sharptools vs more CPU and RAM, but if that means it is a platform to build on, then I am happy to see what may come of it.
New models coming are announced up to year or two ahead of time for cars. We all know this when we buy a car. Fairly easy for them to announce features a new device coming or announcing when an update will be released. Apple and other tech companies do it. They give people a choice - buy now or wait for the new version.
The examples you mention are companies with products that get a revamp of some kind every year. They have a release schedule and people already know that something is coming every year at the same time. Also, those companies are large enough with enough sales that the existing backstock WILL get sold to someone. Additionally, they can absorb the inevitible cloning of features by their competitors when they pre announce something. (Off topic, but I love how Apple announces NEW features that have been present in Samsung devices for years.....). Also, those changes were usually in the works one or two releases ago and have already been tested to some degree. So, they can be more or less confident of release dates.
Companies with devices that aren't released on a regular schedule don't usually do this. Or if they do, it is only when they are imminently ready to release.
Absolutely...anyone who is surprised that there is an updated version of an iPhone or Samsung phone, or a Ford or Toyota has been living in a cave for a long time. For those companys not announcing a new release is a problem, as it would be cosidered a sign of weakness.
The other thing going on here is there is a universal law (at least it seemed that way at my last company) that as soon as you announce a new product/features, especially w/new HW, everything goes to hell in a handbasket and reviewers/customers punish you for not delivering on time/on spec. A lovely lose-lose situation. If I were HE I would never pre-announce new HW, little to gain, everything to lose.
Apple is rarely a first mover, but when they do something, they usually do it right first time.
I think these days tech is so evolutionary that it’s not a big deal. Back in the 80’s and 90’s, personal computing was going through radical changes every year, so pre announcing your product and its features was a recipe for disaster.
I think it's a matter of expectations, timing, and predictability.
With Apple, you know exactly what to expect when: March - MacBooks, June - OS, September - iPhone. Samsung? Same. Winter is Galaxy S; summer is Galaxy Z. Car manufacturers are even more predictable – new year model, well, every year.
Here, we are taken by surprise by both the timing and the scope. When will the new Hubitat be out? Who knows. Will it be a new C-X or C-Y-classifier? We also don't know.
For those companys not announcing a new release is a problem, as it would be cosidered a sign of weakness.
