Add to that the increased sensitivity of the C8 on certain power levels, and presumaby the increase in receive because of the external antenna...
Would not be at all surpised if you're right about this.
Bingo!
Or there's still something that can be done with the code - which I am hoping is the case.
That would be unfortunate, to say the least. The ultimate work-around is, of course, to ditch the C8 and revert to a C7. But that would be a shame. I still have confidence that the HE folks will figure this one out.
Certainly an option and for some might end up being the best option. HE has stated they will continue to sell them, so supply should not be an issue.
With great power comes greater sensitivity. Interference that was negligible on the C7 may become significant enough to cause problems on the C8, even at similar power levels due to the antenna.
One thing I do have confidence in is that the HE team has been and will continue to work very hard to troubleshoot/root cause, and find fixes for the issues that some are experiencing. Eventual full success is of course unknown, but I trust them to throw themselves into the work w/full force.
Updated to .113 yesterday. 2 hue motion sensors dropped within about 6 hours of the update. Had been rock solid on the c5. Just re-paired them. Looks like there are still issues persisting.
About 3 days ago I dropped the C8 power to 12 and moved the C8 about 10 feet from my router.
If you are using channels that aren't anywhere near each other, it shouldn't matter if it's beside your router or not. Good wireless design puts your 2.4Ghz radios on 1, 6 or 11. You want a Hue hub on a channel far away from those. I'd also keep your Zigbee radio on a channel with minimal overlap.
If you are in a congested environment, you should scan neighboring radios to see what's colliding. If you are like me and getting hammered by all channels - your best bet is to be the loudest voice in the room which basically means cranking your transmit and adding repeaters.
For laughs, I took one of my (early) Hue motions out to the driveway to see how far it would work.
I had done this before, with the idea of placing in my (plastic) mailbox.
It didn't make it out there then, and it didn't make it out there now.
I'd say, the same range.
A z-wave ZEN16 is working great in my gate opener's (plastic) control box.
It didn't make it out there with the C7.
Conclusion: ZigBee range same, Z-Wave range, improved.
edit: Some type of cheap Zigbee contact sensor, I forgot the brand, works out there, so that's what I use on my mailbox, package bin, and gate.
I'm just curious, is anyone else running a large thread network? problems/no problems I have HomePods and apple tv's everywhere with lots of thread devices. I'm not willing to turn it all off atm, so I'm curious as to what others are experiencing if you have a thread network with a C8. My thread network works as usual. I also run Lutron .
I started moving some of my automations to Thread 6 mos ago. I have around 20 Eve Thread motion devices and Eve Thread outlets. I also have 4 Homepod Minis at different ends of the house. The results have been excellent. The integration with Lutron Caseta has been flawless. There has been no negative interactions with Hubitat that I am aware of. The Eve app does of good job of showing routings. The only limitation important to me is that Eve does not sell an exterior motion sensor.
Yeah I'm going to stop chiming in because I think I just have a bad C8. I'll know more when The new one arrives. These signals are terrible with the C8 sitting right next to the repeater.
200s is good. 255 is perfect. I.dont see better and it.is very device specific. I see one device in same room as router 255 and another on the high 100s so wouldn't put much stock into that.
same device on a C5 but this ones on a different floor not right next to the hub if it was right next to the hub the numbers would be even better for me.
Not necessarily noise can actually be higher right near hub due to the radio blasting
. There probably is a sweet spot a little ways from the hub but not too far.
well We'll see. Wasn't even my choice to get a replacement. But I can tell you if all your repeaters are reporting lqi under 100 unless there in the same room I'm pretty sure somethings not right.
I'm only now learning about Zigbee strength, Lqi etc. having moved to the C8 from the C5 and experiencing drop outs etc. (I don't think I'd ever had a device drop off my zigbee mesh under the C5 in two years but have had several on the C8). I have approximately 80 zigbee devices or so.
Just checking that I am correct in my assessment that the following readings are not great?
Interference that was negligible on the C7 may become significant enough to cause problems on the C8, even at similar power levels due to the antenna.
