C8? Has anyone heard any talk of the next generation?

Agree...so far, at least from what we've seen posted, it's a very good update, and hasn't been found to torpedo anything (yet). :slight_smile:

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Just curious if the limit of 32 Zigbee devices directly connected to the hub is a limit that could be overcome with a new hub? I tend to favor Zigbee over Zwave and thus have more Zigbee devices.

I think with zigbee 3.0 the limit is 64 devices directly connected to the hub/coordinator.

The appropriate solution here is to add lots of zigbee routers. I have a large mesh with a Zigbee 3.0 coordinator that is very stable and fast. I have a total of about 80 devices on this network, of which 14 are zigbee routers. Only four end-devices are connected directly to the coordinator. The rest are all connected via routers.

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Interestingly enough, SmartThings raised the limit on my v2 hub from 32 to 64 with a firmware update (just as I was removing devices and moving them to my C-7). So you might not even need a new hub.

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OMG I want that Zigbee network map! How did you generate it?

That network map isn't Hubitat. It is a separate zigbee 3.0 network I run and integrate into Hubitat using virtual devices. But an Xbee3 will let you generate similar maps with Hubitat. Here's a link to the relevant thread:

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Thanks!

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Agreed the 32 device limit has not at all been an issue. I've slowly moved more and more to zigbee because it works so much faster/better for me. The XBEE was huge in allowing me to see the network and actually watch in heal in real time.

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Christmas is coming soon.... ??? :rofl: :pray:

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My very ill-informed opinion would be that what I expect are continued troubles in getting electronics produced and distributed would nullify general expansion of a product like we would all like to see..... But maybe the introduction of a new protocol like Matter, over time, may make a new hub more of a viable proposition...? I'm guessing not this holiday season... But who knows....

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Agree w/ @sburke781 that this holiday season would be a surprise timing-wise... Between seeing where Matter now goes and maturation of 800-series z-wave, my guess is we're still quite a ways off from the next-gen Hubitat.

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That said... Given it's 6 months since the last major comment on this topic.... it would be interesting to understand what may be next hardware-based improvements people would like to see, beyond the enhancements we have all had an opportunity to enjoy over the last 3-4 months.... Not meant as a negative towards any hardware improvement, just questioning what people are looking for in what a new hub could offer? Try to encourage the powers that be to entertain your wishes.... Play salesperson... :wink:

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If and when it does come out here is hoping the hub recovery service can be used to restore to the new version...

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I'm not really focused on fancy new features at this point - I really just want stability. Any thing HE team can do to make the experience as reliable, dependable, and as as much self-healing as possible is tops on my list. Maybe I'm a bit shell-shocked having gone through the growing pains of HE getting the 700-series SilLabs Z-Wave SDK work as well as possible. :slight_smile:

One of the few things that would incent me to jump on next-gen HE hub HW (aside from having a non-production one to play with) would be a built-in antenna mod. I think there is plenty of evidence now to show that the antenna mod can be a game changer for HE dependability.

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This, and a zigbee radio whose ieee address was writable - making Hub Protect seamlessly cover both zigbee and zwave migrations.

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:+1:

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IIRC it’s also something staff have acknowledged they’d look into for future hardware revisions. It’s not necessary for me, since I’ve had no issues with zigbee or z-wave dependability, but if they do end up going that way, it’s another great example of how they take feedback from customers seriously and implement when feasible.

But I also don’t think the next hub is coming out anytime soon. Which I’m ok with, my holiday wish list is too long already.

You’re getting a lump of coal, btw. I have it on good authority :santa:.

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LOL...coal!! At least better than Charlie Brown's rock, and my coal can keep me warm.

And that will be an improvement over last year when all I received was a frighteningly dark holiday meme from @rlithgow1. :wink:

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Agreed. There's no new z-wave controllers showing up on fccid. And given that Hubitat was just at CEDIA, if there's new hardware expected in the immediate future, I would think it would have been previewed (or at least mentioned) in the CEDIA presentation.

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This is one I'm hoping for the most.

This would be great too!

I quote this all the time to my kids...especially around this time of year...

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