Yep, two other threads have been started for the same products:
EDIT: And much as I did for the second, I'm linking to both of them here so there will always be links back to the first if anyone wishes to consolidate discussion.
Yep, two other threads have been started for the same products:
EDIT: And much as I did for the second, I'm linking to both of them here so there will always be links back to the first if anyone wishes to consolidate discussion.