I just installed motorized shades and a Bond bridge. I install the bridge and app. I want to be able to setup a schedule to open and close the shades. The Bond app has a scheduler but it doesn't work.
Can Hubitat do that with the Bond bridge?
There is a built in Bond integration: Bond Integration | Hubitat Documentation
Once you bring the devices into HE, you can schedule or automate it however you want.
I use it for a few ceiling fans and it works great for that. I can turn them on/off or adjust the speeds. I have them setup so they basically come on when we go to bed and then turn off in the AM based on when we leave the room and turn the lights off.
I think there are people using it for shades but I cannot speak to that personally.
You can definitely use the Bond Bridge to Schedule your shades. You could also do it if the shades have an Alexa Integration or Google I would Imagine.
Before I got the Bond bridge, I controlled my shades using HE via Alexa with Echo Speaks. It worked great, but it's not a local solution and will not work if you lose your internet connection, I now use the bridge.
I do it by setting up Virtual shades in HE and all my scheduling rules control the virtual shade.
I then have rules that change the actual shade whenever the virtual shade is changed. Since I can't get feedback though the bridge from the actual shade I use the virtual shade to track it's position. This can mean your virtual and actual shade shade can get out of sync. It will definitely get out of sync if you manually change the shade outside of HE. For me and the wife, we rely on using Alexa and schedules to set the shades. We never use the shade remote, so it's worked really well for us.
@terminal3 Thanks very much for the help.
Can you please tell me how you set up HE to change the actual shade when the virtual shade is changed? I have a virtual shade setup but don't know what to do next.
Sorry I am fairly new with HE.
Thank you!
This is a very simple example of my rule. If you open the virtual shade the actual shade should open and vice versa. I use the private Boolean to only allow a new command to be sent very 10 seconds to give the shade time to transition.
If you want to add position changes then it will depend on what is available from your shades and remote. I have a brand of shades called Leviosa. You can't set a position. It has setpoints you program and then you can raise or lower the shade to the next setpoint. My actual rule is much more complicated as I use variables to track the current position and old position and then decide if I need to send a raise or lower shade command. Hopefully this will give you an idea where to start.
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I’m getting confused by the various Bond threads so forgive the multiple posts on the same topic.
Are Bond groups supported by the built-in app, or the third-party? I have created groups but I don’t see the device for the group exposed.
Do you use a Bond bridge? 
All good. If nothing else, try to funnel the responses you get back to one that makes sense to you in terms of the problem as you see it.
I have not tried using the groups but based on your test I would say it is not supported. I know the old community app has wider support but it uses the old API which has to poll the hub for updates. The system app use a new API and gets pushed updates from the hub, but was never fully fleshed out to support all the devices and features.
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I am following up on this in another thread to avoid duplication. From what I have gathered, the 3rd party app was abandoned, and may have been picked up by the Hubitat team as the starting point of their system app? Either way groups has since come out and is not covered in the apps.
does bond bridge pro use same driver?
I don't believe there are different drivers for the different models of the Bond bridges, whether that be in the older Community driver or the built-in driver, but I could be wrong about the built-in one...
Is there a particular reason you are asking about the pro version? Are there particular features or devices you are wanting to confirm support for?
nah dont need pro version. It doesn't have IR which is important.
I got the regular one. Bloody works awesome! Kicks broadlink RM in the gut!
Setup and integration with hubitat was a breeze.
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I second this assessment. I struggled with a whole lot of smartwing shades using Zigbee for ages and then realized that I could use by Bond to send out the RF commands. I don't know what I was thinking and why it didn't occur to me earlier.
And now I have gone from constantly walking into a room with shades in the wrong position to near nirvana.
I also added a second Bond and pushed the two Bonds to the ends of the house to provide better coverage.
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P.S. I think I will still buy the smartwings shades with zigbee as it adds the battery reporting which is nice to know so I can charge before they get too low.
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ah yea. That's cool. All my blinds are AC wired so wouldn't need battery reporting. Good to keep in mind for the future if I need battery reporting.
Anyone in 2025 on this thread experiencing any odd issues with either the 2020 user integration or the 2024 fork since Hubitat platform versions went to 2.4.1.x ?
For reference, Inconsistent RM results going from 2.4.0.151 to 2.4.1.x - #15 by jtp10181
I'm using dman's old Community driver and not having any issues at the moment, running the latest platform version. What kind of issues are you seeing?
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I am using both drivers as neither supported all features. I would like to consolidate around one driver and I likely will look at this in the future. But I have not noticed any issues so far in recent updates.
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This, except I won't look into consolidating to one driver until Hubitat updates its Bond integration. I really do not understand why there has been no progress on this; you can't even delete a device added via Bond using the Hubitat integration.
I end up using both because I have devices that have a built in Bond driver that will pair directly to HE without needing to go through the Bond, and devices that are paired to Bond which is then paired to HE. The community driver has more options than the built in, so I use it for the latter, but it does not support the devices with a built in Bond driver, so I use the former for that...
Dman as in Dominick Meglio?
I've used the driver/app combo from Dominick Meglio the last 4-5 years, no issues. Upgraded from 2.4.0.x to 2.4.1.157 and got inconsistent issues when rules ran to open close shutters. I had some virtual shades set up and a rule that would send commands to Bond to open a group of shutters one by one. Sometimes that virtual shutters status would not change or sometimes the actual shutter would not go up or down. When troubleshooting, I removed the virtual shades completely and had the rules trigger the shutters directly... same issues.
I also tried the newer driver/app with the "versions" listed and got the same issues. However, manually opening or closing the shutters from their device page always worked, which is why I thought it was only related to RM and triggering actions with rules.
I rolled back to a previous 2.4.1.x version and still had the same issues. But when rolling back further to 2.4.0.x everything ran as expected. Full thread with detail here, Inconsistent RM results going from 2.4.0.151 to 2.4.1.x
