I'm glad you mentioned that. I have my window blinds control designed for that. I have a virtual switch that the solar luminance rule turns on and off. I have a separate rule that opens and closes the blinds when the virtual switch turns on/off. This keeps the solar luminance rule from opening/closing the blinds every time the solar luminance changes, and this allows me to manually open/close blinds as an override.
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It does also remind me to add it to a few other rules 
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If you're built to not rely on internet, an outdoor motion sensor with Luminance or Lux is your solve. I personally am comfortable with internet connectivity - I use OpenWeatherMap. You sort of get the best of all worlds here and it is astoundingly accurate. Note below - Local Sunrise (which is slightly more accurate than HE) and Illuminance and illuminated which give a numerical value for lux you can set as a comparator. I use this in a nice tile on my dashboards to have realtime weather as well as a source for running my LUX related rules - (see below)
A sample Lux related rule:
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jshimota that looks great! online service that shows local lux levels. Does OpenWeatherMap support for Australia?
quick guide on how to setup OpenWeatherMap?
i added OpenWeatherMap virtual device. Got API key from https://home.openweathermap.org/.
I dont see the data you see. jshimota
Tried the user driver https://raw.githubusercontent.com/HubitatCommunity/OpenWeatherMap-Alerts-Weather-Driver/master/OpenWeatherMap-Alerts%20Weather%20Driver.groovy
with the same API key, still no data shown...
Same. The Philips Hue Outdoor Motion sensor is awesome.
which sensor?
Edited. Good catch. These threads get confusing and I should have included "Philips Hue Outdoor Motion"
says requires phillips hue bridge?
can work directly with hubitat?
good driver support?
how long does battery last with polling every 15 mins?
can i make it poll every 1 hour for say in the morning. And then after 4pm, poll every 10 mins, and then stop polling at night?
Yes, works directly with Hubitat using built-in driver. No need for a Hue bridge.
Yes, built-in driver works very well
Two AA batteries, which last a very long time. I have never replaced my Hue Outdoor motion sensor's batteries, and it has been running for well over a year.
Polling is not required. Lux changes will automatically send status updates. The driver provides many settings to control when these updates are sent as a function of how much the lux value has changed.
See above - polling is not required. Let the device decide when to send the updates.
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The Hue indoor version has been in my fridge freezer since 12/19/20 with the settings below. The batteries, 2 AAA alkilines, are at 48%. When there is no lux change, it reports every 10 minutes.
Nah, it's Zigbee and does NOT require a bridge. Native direct driver support. I have never replaced the batteries - people have said 1-2 years. I let it report all the time and use the motion support to turn on flood lights if someone "wanders" into the backyard.
Temp is wildly inaccurate as mine is in sunlight. But, I have another sensor in a radiation shield that gives me accurate and local backyard temps.
this the one yeh?
is the temp reading accurate?
I was getting all set to correct you, but instead, I took apart my currently unused Outdoor Hue motion, and they are indeed AA! They should last even longer than the AAA's in my indoor versions!
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what kind of data does phillips Outdoor sensor provide?
i cant seem to find it on their page.
Lux, motion, temperature (how accurate is this?), anything else?
Temperature should be fairly accurate so long as it's positioned where it will never be in direct sunlight (it will be 10 plus degrees C out in direct sunlight I imagine)
There are three outdoor sensors attached to the Hubitat hub.
The propane tank monitor is by Sinope, the Driveway is Hue, and the Porch is ThirdReality.
I also have an Ecowitt weather station that is not currently attached to Hubitat.
All sensors are outdoors but not in the same place.
It's cloudy here now. They pretty much agree, I'd say.
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Let me add that I have 9 Hue indoor motions that have been great.
You might be able to save a little money and use the indoor version outside if you wrap it in plastic and place it under an overhang, which you'd want to do anyway, probably.
The indoor version has a magnetic mount that makes it easy to remove the sensor.
The outdoor version has a screw that must be removed, if I remember correctly.
My outdoor Hue worked great when it was in operation...it was my rules that were screwed up. I'd post a picture of my crunched up gate, but once was enough.
I think you'll be happy with a Hue motion.
so out of the 3, you'd say hue is best yea? does it also provides humidity, Lux, motion, and temperature?
-Hue does lux, motion, and temperature
-My Sinope is really just for monitoring the propane tank level-temperature is a bonus-most Zigbee things seem to have temperature
-The ThirdReality device does temperature and humidity only.
You could mount the Hue somewhere it could give you good lux and temp readings, and maybe also use the motion capability for something or other. Increasing its value! Lol.
