Z wave / Z wave plus question

Are Zwave in-wall receptacles also repeaters? I am thinking of installing a few of them if so. I currently have some unopened Leviton Zwave ones - but realized they're not "plus".

This one:
https://www.amazon.com/Leviton-DZR15-1RZ-Controls-Resistant-Receptacle/dp/B01N6HT2YN/ref=asc_df_B01N6HT2YN/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=193989831776&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17812322494444151573&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023767&hvtargid=pla-315839250701&psc=1

But I am wondering if I should return and get the Ge Zwave "Plus".
https://www.amazon.com/GE-Receptacle-Controllable-SmartThings-14288/dp/B07361JZ2H/ref=asc_df_B07361JZ2H/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=216506979975&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17812322494444151573&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023767&hvtargid=pla-351195704396&psc=1

I read JDRoberts discussion on ZWave / Zwave plus over on smartthings - I think for a couple of $$ it may be a good idea.

Just curious if there is something to learn.

** Oh along the same lines the GE Fan control would that also be considered a Zwave repeater?

Easiest way to know is to visit the Z-Wave Alliance site

For example

Also, you do realize that those Lowes Iris 3210-L Smart Outlets are also Z-Wave Plus repeaters, right? Getting the Z-Wave side paired is a bit of a PITA, though.

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The 3210-L (not the L2) is zwave? Ok I just looked on the back of one - ZWave Plus ... ok cool! Now to figure out how to get it working (the pain in the butt part)

Let me do some reading :slight_smile:

It uses Zigbee to control the outlet. And it has a Z-wave repeater built in as well. It has to be paired twice, once for each protocol.

Oh my they area pain ... i found that I just keep hitting random sets of 5-8 times in groups and it will finally pair .. not sure if being close mattered or not ... but i was within 12" ..(never quite sure what "close" meant).

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I feel you pain. I just had to re-pair one this morning. I think I sprained my index finger.

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Most mains powered devices of any zwave generation are repeaters, and the generations are backwards compatible so there's no problem with a Z wave Classic device repeating for a zwave plus or vice versa.

That said, there are some definite technical improvements with zwave plus, including longer range, so if you have a choice and you are buying new devices, then it is better to get a zwave plus one in most cases. There are some individual models which are a little flaky, but that's because of that particular model, not the zwave generation.

And as @ogiewon mentioned, you can always check the conformance statement at the official Z wave alliance product site to see if any one device is a repeater or not. :sunglasses:

https://products.z-wavealliance.org

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My solution for getting these to pair both with Zigbee and Z-Wave is as follows:

  1. Do NOT start the pairing process yet!
  2. Press and Hold the button while plugging the 3210-L into the power outlet.
  3. When the blue LED turns on, release the button. The LED should start blinking.
  4. Now Press and Hold the button again until the LED sequence changes slightly.
  5. NOW start the pairing process with your hub.

Doing the above allowed my Hubitat hub to pair both the Zigbee and Z-Wave radios at the same time.

Of course, YMMV! I think these outlets have been shipped with a few different revisions of firmware which may affect the pairing process for the z-wave repeater.

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@ogiewon Where were you this morning when I was playing "poke a mole" with my outlet.

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x2 last night .. I couldn't get one to pair ... I was ready for bed and spent the next 45 minutes push push pushing ... and finally it just paired ... named it ... turned off the monitors.

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Did you ever get those DZR15's? If so, did you get them to work? I have some installed that worked with my raspberryPI and z-stick, but I can't get them set up on my HE. They aren't listed as a compatible device either, but I can't think of why they wouldn't be compatible. I really don't think they are out of range as that would be the only other possible reason.

Did you ever get these to work? I am trying to find some in wall outlets but I dont want to buy the Leviton if they do not work. I am surprised they are not listed.

I'm actually having the same issue with the DZR15's - Did you ever get these to work?

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