yea but still distance, but saying that mabe the wire from the electric floor and the tiles make it a preferance to go round
Or it could be a bad route or at least a non-optimal one that was formed during adding devices or during one of probably numerous z-wave repairs.
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Now I've taken that node out I've reboot , and started a repair. Just hope it doesn't lock my z-wave radio.. never know might fix it,
So basically I'm looking for slow nodes??
How would you design a mesh that wants to be as large as possible? The Controller has no concept of homes, floors, walls.. except as they interfere with signal. It's trying to build the largest mesh, even if you don't need one. So YES, pick the furthest router, lowest acceptable signal strength, with the most neighbors. So what if that 'hops over' another device? 
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Why?
A reboot should not be necessary at all. Maybe with HE but shouldn't be. Doing a manual repair also should not be necessary as you actually want to let Z-Wave send out explorer frames to update the routes and be sniffing so you can see what is happening and it's a fun learning experience 
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why im doing this is to make sure my mesh isnt causing issues, the z-wave side of my system keeps locking up (virtual/zigbee/wifi fine) z-wave just become unresponsive, only a shutdown and unplug fixes it. Also some times a repair was taking 6 min, other time around 2 hours.
HE intermated it might be part of the larger slowdown issues, looking at the zniffer the HE stick is still working but not communicating with the hub itself during a lock
basicly im trying to check i have got and dodgy nodes overloading the hub
When the system locks up it's only the z-wave portion? That's interesting. You're in the UK right? Do you have 2 USB sticks one for z-wave and one for zigbee or is it the combo Nortek stick? When the lock up happens do you still see traffic flowing with the sniffer? Any responses from Node 001?
Dono about combo stick, in uk and have external usb stick on HE.
Yes I can see traffic, I think I remember seeing stuff from the controller when its locked. I'm pretty sure this is the case as I have 2 Trv's which go into panic mode when they can't reach the controller, and normally they don't so I assume the controller is send acknowledgement, just nothing gets into or out of the hub
Edit.. I assume zigbee was in the hub
Sounds like this is a C5 hub?
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yeah must be. I have the C4 and that is 2 sticks, a combo one with american z-wave frequency and zigbee; then a separate EU z-wave stick.
Is there a way to get the data out to excel so I can more easily review it?
@codahq wanting to get more details on my Zwave mesh. Being new to this, what are differences between this solution and Zway? I saw your posts in that thread as well. Zway is more expensive but I am happy to invest more if there are added benefits over SILabs software. Thanks!
Owning both solutions, I would say that they are intended for different uses.
You can't listen to another network with z-way without being joined to it - you have to join the z-way controller to your z-wave network for it to hear anything. As such, it is a secondary controller not a sniffer.
A sniffer can listed to all traffic (that it is in range to hear anyway...), regardless whether it is a member of the mesh or not.
Z-way can show routes and a network map, since it is a member of the network, while a sniffer can't really do that.
So they really serve different purposes.
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Does anyone know if wireshark can be used with these sticks to capture/decode with that app? I'm about to google it but thought I'd ask here first.
I've never looked. I use wireshark with my zigbee sniffer, but have never bothered to look if either of my zwave sniffers had a wireshark filter/integration.
A quick google search, there is a thread about a wireshark disector for z-wave. I love wireshark and ordered a dongle yesterday. It would be so fantastic to use wireshark. Such an incredible mature product!
Yeah, you might be referring to this (although there are many other references out there):
That might be able to be adapted for this dongle - never tried.
I'm sure there is some way to dump the output to wireshark. As infrequently as I use the sniffer, though, I've never bothered to spend an afternoon to figure it out. The zniffer works well enough.
There are about three things out there, and they all look like they work under ubuntu via python code. I don't want to go through all the effort to create that, I was hoping there was a driver/disector for windows and wireshark. I guess I'll use the one in this thread. It probably makes sense anyway since I can post screenshots and others here will understand it.
Oh well, the network engineer geek in me had to look!
Well, if I were going to make one, it would be in python anyway. 
No reason to program in anything else, in my opinion - although I do still do a bunch of js...
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I wasn't expecting to see this:
The Hub, uses 9.6k to converse with a ZWave (not plus) device, BUT then that device converses with the next device at 40k. I thought it would always be at the lowest speed encountered.
Then a few minutes later, the same conversation is at 40k, end to end:
There's nothing "BAD" about this, just a curiosity really. 
The conversation was completed in both cases.
