I just ran a quick test using a Hubitat Button Controller App to have a Pico turn on a Caseta Dimmer. If one watches closely, the Pico remote's LED flashes rapidly when the button is pressed/release quickly. Only once the Pico's LED stops flashing does the Caseta Dimmer start turning on.
A directly paired Pico to Caseta dimmer behaves differently - the dimmer turns on immediately, even while the Pico's LED is still flashing.
Fair enough - here's my use case. I want to use a single Pico remote with two different devices based on the time of day. One of them is a Caseta dimmer, the other is a zigbee bulb.
There's a delay in controlling the Caseta dimmer - whether I use NR directly to the Caseta bridge, or via Hubitat. There's no delay in controlling the zigbee bulb .....
I just wanted to second this experience: I have lots of Pico remotes (in fact, I'm pretty unusual in that I have RA2 without any hardwired Lutron products--just Picos and motion/"occupancy" sensors). Most of them control Hue bulbs. As above, this is very fast--I have buttons 2 and 4 on the "5-button" (3BRL) model send a startLevelChange() on pressed and a stopLevelChange() on released to Hue bulbs or groups, imitating the behavior of a real dimmer (or a Hue Dimmer remote when on Hue, for example). So traffic here goes from Lutron to Hubitat to the Hue Bridge to the Hue bulbs, and even with all that, it's practically instant.
(I'm not discounting Z-Wave, either--many people make it work well for them. Lutron has a rock-solid reliability reputation, perhaps because it is not a mesh and therefore isn't subject to problems a poorly-designed mesh network can create. I'd say most people can make either work well with thoughtful planning, and both protocols have published theoretical ranges...and real-world practical ranges, which hearsay suggests Lutron's may be closer to than many others'.)
I wanted to control hue light with Pico. Won’t that go through h.e and be a delay?
No. There will be zero delay as long as you're not trying to control another Caseta device via the Hubitat hub.
Use Cases:
Slow (about .5 second delay)
Pico-->SmartBridge-->Hubitat-->SmartBridge-->Caseta
Fast
Pico-->SmartBridge-->Hubitat-->Hue
Pico-->SmartBridge-->Hubitat-->Zigbee
Pico-->SmartBridge-->Hubitat-->Z-Wave
Pico-->SmartBridge-->Hubitat-->LAN
Ok that I get. Not so strange of a time based use.
Oh, now I get what y’all mean, thanks
Yes it will go through HE. No there won't be a delay.
Here's my timings if interested.
Pico --> RR2 --> XP6s --> RR2 --> Dimmer
Timestamp 7/12/20 @ 12:13:07.667 AM
(DRVR:INF) 13:09.395 073 - Lutron RadioRA 2 / HomeWorks QS - ID 41, Button 4 was Pressed
(DRVR:INF) 13:09.400 075 - Lutron RadioRA 2 / HomeWorks QS - ID 24, Switch/Shade Command Off/Closed (3) Executed
(DRVR:INF) 13:09.478 076 - Lutron RadioRA 2 / HomeWorks QS - ID 24, Level is 0
(DRVR:INF) 13:09.479 077 - Lutron RadioRA 2 / HomeWorks QS - ID 24, Status On is false
(DRVR:INF) 13:10.624 078 - Lutron RadioRA 2 / HomeWorks QS - ID 41, Button 4 was Released
(DRVR:INF) 13:25.179 079 - Lutron RadioRA 2 / HomeWorks QS - ID 41, Button 2 was Pressed
(DRVR:INF) 13:25.205 081 - Lutron RadioRA 2 / HomeWorks QS - ID 24, Switch/Shade Command On/Open (2) Executed
(DRVR:INF) 13:25.300 082 - Lutron RadioRA 2 / HomeWorks QS - ID 24, Level is 100
(DRVR:INF) 13:25.300 083 - Lutron RadioRA 2 / HomeWorks QS - ID 24, Status On is true
(DRVR:INF) 13:25.485 084 - Lutron RadioRA 2 / HomeWorks QS - ID 41, Button 2 was Released
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I also have Caseta. I linked the essential pico's to lights through the Lutron app (without interfering with Hubitat) and added extra pico's to Hubitat to manage specific rules of things that could be not functioning (in case of a HE failure).
WAF is there, all the lights are working all the time, whatever the state or the slowness of HE.
Lutron Caseta system is bulletproof and works all the time.
Dont you need the PRO2 to work well with HE ?
That is the pro 2
Update: got it for $30 and lutron shipped me a v2 for free
Nice, Lutron customer support FTW (yet again).
Yup, literally took 3 minutes. I’m grateful but it kinda shocks me, u can’t use the v1 hub at all. I thought I just couldn’t use it with hubitat
Download the Hubitat app
