Actually according to HomeSeer all HS3 plugins "work" with HS4. I can verify this is NOT true but because the company has loudly and boldly claimed it to be true as a user I would stick them with that claim and make them eat any cost of plugin upgrades.
Along these same lines tough most of the 3rd party developers are giving their HS4 version away for free to existing HS3 plugin owners. This makes the cost from HS3 to HS4 very doable.
I dropped HS from personal use because I don't like being forced to use a mobile interface from my desktop.
This thing. It works decently (as well as any Wink product does lol). At this point, I'd probably opt for a dumb scale, and figure out how to make it trip a contact sensor or something when it gets below a certain point.
Yea doesnt look promising. A just searched and Home Depot sells one for like $20. I wonder if it's hackable to flash with Tasmota. Seems like a lot of "wifi smart devices" are. I might get impulsive one day and just buy it to see.
Because itâs not realistic. What do you think youâll get in a lawsuit (assuming you win) from a company that is bankrupt and canât pay its debts? Answer: a rich lawyer you pay thousands of dollars to, a lot of wasted time, and not a dime in your pocket.
Not to mention what are your damages here? A few $100? Youâd need this to be class action to have any teeth and again. Youâd get $50 and the lawyers would get millions... if they had funds to pay out which they donât. So itâd be a lawsuit of principle and nothing more
I would still like to know what principle is at stake here.
If you use a cloud-dependent IoT device, then you are at the mercy of the owner of those servers in the cloud. They are providing you with an ongoing service, whether you paid once for hardware that connects to the cloud, or pay an ongoing subscription to receive the benefits of that service. Read the terms of use when you buy it, and if they don't appear to be in your favor, consider moving on to another product.
Have they defrauded anyone in some way by changing to a subscription-based model? Breached a commitment they made in the terms of service by changing to a subscription on short notice?
Although for others I will point out that there are many local (non-cloud) Wi-Fi devices as well, typically using tasmota or other similar firmware/connectivity. I view those as "long term safe" to use as well.
The cloud is convenient, but you also give away control of your destiny. Sometimes that's ok, but often it isn't.
You know, I would be ok with the monthly fee if it wasn't given to me as an ultimatum. If only this wasn't an ultimatum I may have paid the monthly fee. Also, it was emphasized by the fact that overnight my Wink hub went offline and I currently can't get it connected again.
I've used Wink support before and its not worth paying for. Promised features have been missed and forgotten. I have 2 next to useless (and now actually useless) Wink Relays. So good riddance.
So I just ordered the Hubitat Elevation. Last time I looked at Hubitat it was $129 and I have seen the sales from time to time. I'm fine with the price, especially given how it will keep working without internet access.
so I too have been driven here by Winks callus treatment of its customers honestly I have been looking at Hubitat since sept but I use the Caseta devices so I was looking at around 300 dollars to recreate what I had with the wink.... But now here I am
sounds like a good time for a byewink discount code
And I dont know how it was with Wink, but with the HE + Caseta Pro, you can trigger ANYTHING you want with a PICO remote! As a former ST user, this alone was worth the price.
Seems like years ago I was heavily invested in the TCP Connect hub. Unlike Wink offering a subscription, they just pulled the plug. It's the "wild west" of IOT out there and having "jumped" from TCP then to Wink only to hear the rumors, have settled on HE and never been happier. That said, there will always be another system on the horizon. Hopefully HE will stay relevant as this forum and the product are home for now.
Wink and StaplesConnect were the two companies that Lutron licensed ClearConnect to. I have to imagine it was a disapointment to them, because they haven't licensed it since. They built their SmartBridge family and Hubitat requires the PRO version: SmartBridge PRO. Hubitat has said that they did approach Lutron to get a license but were turned down.
However, Wink never used the Lutron product well. StaplesConnect did a superior job and as far as I'm concerned Hubitat has done an Ultimate job. I used many Pico remotes via Staples and it was a critical element of my migration. I balked at the additional $$ for the Lutron bridge, but eventually I found one for a very good price on Ebay.
