Vacation Rental Challenge: Lamps

I know this sounds silly, but it's something that drives me nuts...

I have a second home that we rent on AirBnB when we're not using it. Clearly it needs to be fully automated, but I don't want to prescribe any 'automations' for the guests.

I have a 'guest' and 'cleaner' mode that do some things, like turning on all receptacles and lamps for guests and all the lights in the house for the cleaners.

We have several lamps throughout the house and I originally started with outlets to control power to the lamps, but if for any reason the scene didn't complete it was confusing to the guests. Also I've often noticed they move the lamp plug from the bottom/controlled receptacle to the top/always-on and I assume it's due to them plugging in a wall-wart of some sort. Sigh...

So I began to implement Sengled LED bulbs in many other lamps, which allows them to turn the lamp on/off as they so please. I ask the cleaners to turn on every lamp in the house when they leave which allows me to successfully run my vacant mode settings like sunset scene to turn on some lamps throughout the house so it's not dark.

However, for the life of me I can't get them to consistently do this.

Has anyone else come up with a tried/true solution to control lamps in a situation like this?

We owned a house we rented out on VRBO, that we could see from our home. In four years, I never found a way to make good use of automation with guests and simply relied on HA to allow me to turn off certain lights when left on and no one there (e.g., the lights in the basement washer/dryer area when it was clear the guests had all left for the day). I also had Hubitat reset HVAC temps if they went crazy out of range, such as the winter guest that had a kid who turned the heat up to 80 (we allowed a wide range in our policies, but not that wide). Other than that, trying to get guests to live the way you live is frustrating for all concerned. Consider the extra energy used an operating cost if its not crazy excessive , and move on. Or, like us, just sell the thing and vow to never own another one.

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The solution is removing the smart outlets, using Hue bulbs on a Hue bridge and Zooz switches/dimmers (battery powered or hardwired in smart bulb mode) for intuitive control of the lights. I use Hue almost exclusively because they never fail. Having 4 kids and a non techie wife has made me realize how important it is to have control of the house that is intuitive. Although I do have most areas either fully or partially automated with around 20 contact sensors and 30 or so motion sensors, I also have dimmers to override automations when needed.

This.

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Short of bolting the dimmers into the wall, glueing the lamp plugs into the correct sockets and glueing the bulbs into the lamps, no.

I didn't do any of those things, but I did go so far as to remove the knobs in the lamps so the lamps couldn't be turned off. I had the lamps plugged into z-wave dimmers and Zooz ZEN34 remotes on the wall as close as practical to the lamps they controlled, hoping it would be somewhat obvious that the switch controlled the lamp.

I had a guest mode variable, which was true if the property was rented. If true, the lights just came on at sunset but didn't shut off until sunrise, the thought being that they would shut off the lamps when they wanted to.

I'd say about 60% of the guests left things alone, especially repeat guests who figured out how things worked. A few even commented positively on the automation. Then there were the guests who moved everything. Unplugged lamps, moved silverware from one drawer to another, rearranged all the small appliances, etc.

It was an interesting experience, and over the course of almost three years we got 5-star reviews from every single guest except one. We were only a mile from the property but later, moved about 100 miles away and it became unmanageable. We ended up selling the property and never looked back. We met a lot of really nice people, but at this point in my life I wouldn't want to do it again. My advice, sell if you can :slightly_smiling_face:

lol -
got the message loud and clear that folks don't like the frustrations that come with renting a smarthome...

My situation is that we have the home there because WE want it, but can't afford 2 homes outright so the rentals offset some of the cost and allows us the opportunity to have it.

But I guess I've also exhausted my options for the most part. Smart bulbs can't be turned on with the rotary switch off.. I can't turn it on/off if the dumb bulb lamp gets plugged into another receptacle.

I have overhead/recessed lights in many rooms on first floor and the problem isn't the end of the world by all means.. just like everything else in the world of smarthome - a normally fun challenge to stay as close to perfection on utopian automations as possible.

I'm just stuck on the lamps thing and wanted to see if any magician out there figured it out lol.

Automations work great until humans get involved.

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Since you do short term rentals and a housekeeper, I assume you have a smart lock? I set up rules that automatically turns on all lights when the housekeepers code is entered. You could also create a virtual switch for "Housekeeper Mode" that turns on when the proper code is entered, and then have automations that only run for the housekeeper by using the Required Expression "Housekeeper switch is ON"

You could create similar rules that are linked to the renters code too. I always put the renters code or the housekeepers code in a particular lock code slot, so you could do a rule like "If code in slot 10 is entered, activate 'Renter Mode' switch", and just make sure you always put the renters code in slot 10 and that way you can always activate the rules regardless of which code is in slot 10.

Oh man, we've had similar at our cottage, and you just have to say (loudly) "WTF" when you open the silverware drawer and it's full of knives, spatulas, and other not-silverware kitchen stuff.

I don't remember asking them to reorganize the house for us... :man_facepalming:

On the other hand, we have several long-term (as in >decade) renters who feel attached to the cottage and will fix things, buy and leave stuff to enhance the cottage, etc. One even re-screened a window that we had forgotten to take care of before the rental season! Those really nice people make up for the other ones. :smiley:

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oh, yeah - everything in the house is smart and just like you mentioned, I leverage door codes to switch house modes (and when to go vacant when the door is locked from the outside, but only for us and cleaners, but not guests for example.)

To better solution, it helps to understand the problem space. What you are dealing with is a two part problem:

  • User needs
  • Intuitiveness of of the system user interface, and user experience (UI/UX)

Once you understand the problem space correctly, solutions tend to become more obvious.

User Needs
I put user needs first because you mention people plugging in wall worts and it's the easier problem to solve (I think). The best way to deal with this is to recognize that your renters may need to plug in wall worts and to make it easy to do so without messing with your existing plugged in items. Having a plug in a visually obvious place that is super easy to access and accommodates common sized wall worts helps a lot.

This is why hotels put plugs on the night stands and desks, to keep users from unplugging lamps and bedside clocks to use the plug for their own needs. Something I have done for my own convenience in my house is to find a nice mountable power strip and attach it to the back corner of a sofa side table or nightstand. It makes it super easy to plug something in on the fly and is (usually) visually obvious. Score bonus points if the mounted power strip has USB power ports available, super bonus points if the USB ports include USB C with Power Deliver support.

It comes to thinking about the traveling user's needs and making sure you accommodate them appropriately or the user will figure out their own solution, usually to your irritation.

Intuitiveness of the System / User Interface, User Experience
It may sound stupid to think of a house, or some portion thereof, as having a user interface, but it does. How you lock and unlock, turn on and off lights and fans, adjust comforts settings, etc, are all parts of the house's user interface.

You have three sub-problems in this category:

  • User needs
  • The user interface and experience renters are used to at home
  • Making it obvious how you want your rental used

Wait, didn't we already discus user needs? Yes but user needs are also part of and can drive a large portion of the user interface and user experience.

Your second issue is that unfortunately people expect your rental house to work like their personal home and they will look for the same interface and operational aspects as such. The more your rental looks and feels like a generic home in its intended use style, the more compliance from renters you will get.

Your third issue is revolves around the fact that your rental will not work exactly like the renters home and how you make it obvious to work with the differences that way you (the landlord) want.

Let's take the common table or floor lamp as an example. People are conditioned to reach up under the shade and rotate a switch arm. They don't even think about it, they just do it. It's muscle memory. So long as the rotational switch exists and is usable you will NOT win this battle. It's a losing game. You need to do two things to resolve this:

  • remove the rotational switch
  • put an automation integrated switch right at or on the lamp so you is visually obvious how to turn on and off the lamp (and not screw up the automation system). The part in parenthesis, the renter will not care about, but you do and you have to account for it.

For the common table lamp, attach a Z-wave or WiFi button to the sofa table or nightstand. Keep it as simple as possible such as a single toggle button or a well-labeled set of on and off buttons.

For floor lamps make sure the wall switches are clearly labeled for the each room. For the lamps on a wall managed plug, label the wall switch floor lamps.

As for the house cleaners. Having automation enabled based on lock code entered or having a easily visible button that turns everything on and off (toggle) is the best you will get.

Wrap Up
I could go on and on but the point you should take away should be that

  • If you don't give the users what they need, they will figure out how to get it themselves. The chances you will appreciate the result are low
  • You have to make the way you want the house to be operated the only way available and make it easy to understand an use in the way you want it used

Nobody reads instructions and even if they do they likely won't care so long as they feel that what they want to do the way they want to do it doesn't break your home (in their perception). You have to keep in mind that most people don't have home automation and therefore won't think about breaking home automation when making choices on how to behave and interact with the home.

Footnote: I expect to see automation more and more when I travel. And it drives nuts to no end when I have to reverse engineer how the home owner or hotel designer wants the system to be used.

my problem is worse the renters disconnect the zigbee or zwave repeaters or plug in switches causes issues and door sensors and leak sensor batteries to go dead as they cannot reach the hub... sigh.. at least they leave the wifi therm alone for the most part..

they also unplug the outdoor camera i have to monitor the hurricanes. and occasionally the weather station.. For now that is plugged in hidden under the desk or behind a dresser in the other condo..

This gave me an idea. just ordered some little 2x3 signs.. Do not Unplug! This is a Zigbee repeater!

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That boils down to user needs and user experience. You need to understand why are renters unplugging your things. Then (re)design the home automation and experience such that the renters don't have a need to unplug your stuff.

ya they are just weird or annoying. that is why for instance the zigbee plug is used in an adapter that has other plugs so that they are not loosing a plug.. not sure why they unplug it..

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Because it's not obvious that it's not in their way of doing what they want. You have to think like a person who simply wants to plug stuff in or turn stuff on and hasn't the slightest clue about home automation and who is going to go for the easiest and. simplest solution to their problem, not yours.

Aside: as someone who's day job is to influence the behavior of others towards voluntary compliance, I think about this kind of problem all of the time. The desired behavior has to be obvious and either the only way or the easiest way to accomplish a person's task or solve their problem.

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So you've given up on electrical shocks? :wink:

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