Using " Pause Rule" Correctly

I currently have an arrival ruleset and its depends on time frame.

I have encountered an edge case where the rule duration was met and the door started to close as the car turned the corner to enter the garage... was a close call, so I decided to install a "pause function"
My question is: is this correct? Will the duration count start over?

Longer rule is the one based on arrival.

Auto Door close is the second rule I am trying to pause.

The easiest way would be to put required expression, Time between Sunrise and 10 PM on the "Garage Door Auto Close" rule. This would accomplish the same goal.

That said, the auto close rule in general is not a good idea, for the reasons you stated that already occured.

If you are going to have such a rule, think of EVERYTHING that can go wrong and put some logic in place to prevent it.

Biggest one I can see, someone stops halfway in/out of the garage door for some unknown reason, leaves it and forgets it and the sensors don't see the car. Or worse, a person standing in the line of the door, but isn't in line with the sensors. IMHO, the best thing you could do is just have it alert you at the 30 minute mark that the garage door is open. Then, you can verify that the door is not blocked and then close it using switch on wall or in app(I do this with a 10 minute timer, and verify by camera, or stepping into the garage and physically seeing myself)

Just two days ago, (True story) we were coming home, as we pulled into the driveway, we heard screams. We have foxes in the area, and they can sound like a baby or lady screaming. We did not initially see anything. But, just as we pulled into the garage, we heard the scream again, with a distinct "HELP!!" Shut the car down where it sat, got out, and saw the neighbors dogs around the back of her car. That is where the sound was coming from. Ran over to find her fingertips trapped in her hatch. We got her hand out and waited for EMS help to show up. The whole time, the car was halfway in the garage. I got no less than six alerts on my phone that I had left the garage open. Had I used an auto close, it would have at least tried to close on my car. I am pretty sure that our SUV sits high enough that the sensors run below the car. But, they have to be that low to prevent closure on small children. It would only catch it if the tires were in the sensor zone or for a vehicle with a much lower base. The touch sensor should work. But, I would rather not test it on my car.

PS - Her hatch had "autoclosed" on her hand (finger tips). It is supposed to have sensors to stop that. But, they did not work for whatever reason. She was stuck for an hour, waiting on someone to come rescue her. So, even where we think things are safety gated, they can fail. I was actually shocked that the automanufacturers had not made that foolproof.

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  • That's WILD!!!
    There will always be an edge-cade with some of this unfortunately.
    I have 3 motion sensors in the garage to sense motion, and if motion is present, do not close.. But, if the process has started, i needed to find a way to stop it.

Maybe add- IF door is closing, and motion is present, halt and open?
Nah, the door will set off the motion... grrrrr

How would you handle a situation where the car is halfway in/out of the garage and may not be blocking the sensors. Presumably, no motion would be detected.

Again, I think this is a situation where you need to consider that this could happen. (I have heard that there are multi-laser sensors that most likely would catch that. Maybe you already have that in place.

But, if you are absolutely committed to having this rule, I would also consider something that cancels the rule timer if motion is detected.

Edge cases are sometimes totally unavoidable. When you mix that with things that can damage something or cause injury, it might be time to consider not doing that automation, or finding an alternative (such as a simple notification that you can manually respond to).

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At one point I was going to automate closing my garage doors. In the end, after considering the "What could go wrongs?", I opted for notifications and the ability to close them remotely from our phones.

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