Hi Team,
Is there device driver for thirdreality leak sensor in which the siren can be turned off.
I recently created a bed occupancy sensor using the Thirdreality leak sensor by connecting the dry contacts to the pressure mat. Its working great- but that 120dB siren goes off whenever someone occupies the bed. I see from thirdreality marketing youtube video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWjTfPii1PQ , that this can be toggled off.
Although when its paired with hubitat - it shows up as "Generic Zigbee moisture sensor" in which I only see the battery and "dry/wet" status - and no way to toggle the siren. Anyone found a way to get this toggled off without physically cutting the siren ?
As far as I know, there is no way to toggle this It is likely that there are better devices to use for this purpose. It is, after all, a moisture detector where you would want to be alerted when moisture is detected. As for the video, it looks like a Third Reality hub and app are being used to enable silencing the alarm sound.
You might be better off getting a contact sensor and figuring out how to get that to work since there would not be any sort of siren as part of it.
I have a bunch of these water leak sensors and the connection to the pressure mat sensor requires no soldering at all. Whereas with the contact sensors it requires me to play/potentially break the contact sensor in order to connect it with the pressure mat.
Im thinking - what if I got the thirdreality hub just to program these water leak sensors to not play sirens, and then re-home these sensors back to hubitat. Would it erase previously configured setting on these sensors ?
That is something I can't answer. Is it worth it to try? Would a presence detector work instead, or is it that you don't just want presence in the room but presence in the bed?
No, unfortunately they use coin cell batteries. However, I have had mine in service for a year and the battery is still going strong. The change interval won't be frequent.
I am a huge fan of Third Reality stuff because of AAA and AA batteries. I use their contact sensors, buttons, temp/humidity sensors. They aren't as "stylish" or "small" as others but I like the battery setup.
This has been an interesting experiment.
I managed to cut the siren cables in my thirdreality leak sensor(it was an easy process), and so far the pressure mat with the sensor is working fine. Although, it is very very spammy/noisy - when you look at the logs(look at the picture). Whenever someone sits on pressure mat - the leak sensor almost twitches between "wet" and "dry" frequently as long as someone is sitting. It stabilizes on "dry" when someone is off. So I have to create a virtual switch just to pad out the noise to create a stable "occupied" and "un-occupied" stating device of which I can build my rules on.
Two things:
Does the aqara leak sensor twitches/toggles the same way whenever someone sits on your pressure mat ?
You brought up my second concern - how long do these batteries last ? given that these leak sensors were made to be dry/disconnected in normal circumstances and only go "wet"/connected if there is water detected - usually this "Wet" state is temporary. Does the battery drain a lot if someone was to sleep on this bed for 8-10 hours while this sensor is in "wet" state for that long
I have a boat load of these sensors for leak detection. I'm two years in on the first set of batteries. They report wet/dry hourly. I think an open/close contact sensor is going to be a better solution. I do use one for a similar application. A jar hung on a microswitch that rests on the salt in my softener salt tank. When the salt drops far enough the jar on a string activates the microswitch which operates the sensor. Notifications and the little siren in the garage are perfect.
The Aqara sensors do not twitch between we and dry. When no one is on the bed they are stable on dry. When someone is in the bed they are stable on wet. I have a pad on my side and one on my wife's side. They are both stable if laying in the area of the mat. I actually turn her bedside fan on with hers when she gets in bed. I also use them to make sure the lights don't come on when someone is in bed and someone else walks in the room.
I have two that have been in service for a year and they are slept on 6 to 8 hours a night and I have not had to replace the batteries yet. Both actually still show 100 in the status on the device page but I doubt that is fully accurate. Either way I have not had to replace the battery yet in either.
I have attached a picture of the mat that I use. It is very similar and has a very similar cable. One thing I done was put a hard flat surface between my mattress and the structure below it so the mat was laying on that hard consistent surface and then the mattress against the mat instead of one that was uneven. I actually used a couple pieces of left over laminate flooring.
Also I have attached a screenshot of my rule. I use the wet dry state. I do not use any virtual switches.
I am not home but later tonight I will get a picture of my actual setup.
Looks like I have the same mat.
Thanks for posting the rule - I was thinking of the exact same thing. Automating my bedroom lights based on motion if no one is in bed.
That rule works really well for me. The required expression of course keeps it from triggering if anyone is in bed.
Also I just use a basic rule with a smart plug to then the fan on and off.
Tonight I will get you a pic of the matt installed. Also, one other thing I did find it helpful to put a thin towel on the edge of one of the mats. I am assuming that is due to mattress shapes. It really is just a trial and error thing to get the mat to work how you want.
Yes, Please if you could send me a snapshot of how you have installed the pressure mat.
From your earlier message, I figured out a mistake I was doing. I had just placed the pressure mat directly on the bed slats. Which is probably why it was fluctuating between wet and dry.
I’ll try to find something hard, flat and large to put under
okay- now I am thinking that I have broken this mat - just like you mentioned.
This is how it is now behaving with me standing on top of it while its placed on the floor.
One way to test is take the mat wires loose and just use a jumper wire to trip the leak sensor and see if it toggles back and forth like that. If it doesn't then it could be the mat.
Mine when I broke it basically a huge portion of the mat stopped responding all together but depending on how it is broken if it is then you may get a different reaction.
just did that.
It is the third reality leak sensor behaving erratically.
Now I am not sure if this was its default behavior or did I cause this when cutting the siren off.
Time to get another TR water sensor to see if its behaving the same way
