I have 2 GE zwave rockers (not the plus). When flipping the switches manually they won't register on the hub on the dashboard or in the device. But from the hub I can hit the button and both lights turn off and on instantly.
I'm coming from smartthings and NEVER had this issue on that hub with these switches. The hubitat is the same distance to these switches, around 15 ft, and through one wall.
I already reset, shutdown, rebooted, re-added, and z wave repair.
Any thoughts.
I believe smartthings automatically polled those devices, since they’re an older generation and won’t report their status in realtime when someone physically hits the switch.
Try the z-wave poller app.
since they're non plus, you need to use the poller app (or upgrade to plus switches)
Or complete the migration to Hubitat by replacing z-wave switches with Lutron Caseta 
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@marktheknife, $60 for a switch....yeah, never going to happen.
So why do the rest of the similar switches work with no issue...report instantly when pressed? Or is it a matter that it hits some and not others...that sounds like a hubitat issue and not a switch issue.
I did something different anyway, I have a motion camera in that area and have the camera refresh the switch every couple of seconds for the first 5 minutes if motion is detected, and then when motion stops.
I will keep that poller in mind though, thanks.
Only zwave plus and/or very late manufacture date standard zwave devices will automatically report physical change status to the hub. The rest have to be polled. That is not hub specific, that is how the spec worked for manufacturers that didn't want to pay the royalties on the lutron reporting patent.
If some ARE reporting their status back on physical changes then they are either zwave plus, or very late manufactured non-plus devices that were made after the patent prohibiting the auto-reporting expired.
Got you. So even if it is the same model number, the date it was manufactured will determine if has that capability? That's interesting that a feature would be added in a model number instead of putting out a whole new model.
One last question, just for my understanding on how this stuff works. How do switches get added to the network...essentially registering a physical action...yet are unable to update status with the same physical interaction? Aren't they both zwave communication updating?
Not uncommon at all for GE/Jasco. They release COMPLETELY redesigned hardware (different features, different chips, different firmware) as the same model # all the time. It is INFURIATING.
Most manufacturers don't do that.... But GE/Jasco does. All the time.
Different messages. The reporting patent in question specifically prohibited devices sending back on/off status updates when changed locally (unless the royalties were paid).
Pairing uses completely different messages than on/off status, thus is/was not prohibited in that old patent.
one way to check this is go to your zwave details and check the clusters. i forgot which codes stand for what, but it can help identify if you have z-wave plus devices
If it has 0x5E in inClusters it is plus,, if not it isn't.
Soooooooo, I just refused to believe what I was being told. It simply didn't make sense....at least in my specific situation, same models working elsewhere in the house, same device working with previous system. I felt like I was being told that classic line by a manufacturer, "our device is working as it should, it's your other equipment".
So I brought my hub right to the switches and boom, the hub picked up the switching. Again, originally only 15ft away. So it IS the hub, the antenna strength of this hub is anemic which I guess is why I see so many suggestions of buying more and creating a mesh or relays.
And fwiw, I also have a plus device not picking up correctly since I switched.
I wanted to get rid of ST, but I guess I'm going to have to keep it for these switches and anything else that may pop up.
I'm disappointed.
PS. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the attempt to assist.
Download the Hubitat app
