Has anybody ever seen a smart switch with an outlet? The outlet doesn’t need to be switched. Something like this:
Why don't you get something like this, and put an in-wall Enerwave/Aeotec/Qubino relay in the same box to control the load for the switch.
I want a smart switch. I don’t care about the outlet.
The switch controls a light. If I put a smart light in the fixture then somebody would have to flip the switch off then on to turn on the light.
Even just a button control would work with the light hard wired. Something I could read from Hubitat then act accordingly.
The problem is I don’t want to lose the outlet. It is the only one in the room.
Hmm, just had a thought. I might be able to put a double plate on the box and use a Pico Remote in the other position.
@aaiyar answer is correct. Get a Qubino Flush or Aeon Nano that goes INSIDE the box and use the switch&socket you have. Better is to use the switch&socket that @aaiyar suggests. The switch no longer connects to the load (bulb/lamp) it simply tells the Qubino/Aeon what to do. The Qubino/Aeon is what connects to the load.
If you get the dual version of the Qubino, then you can switch both the Lamp and the outlet. You could also get the single Dimmer version for just the lamp.
Oh wait, so the relay reads the state of the switch? That’s pretty nifty.
So is this a correct assumption?
Flip the switch on - light goes on.
Turn off in Hubitat - light goes off.
Flip the switch off - light goes on.
In other words does the state of the switch work independently of the state of the relay?
And on a related note do you know of a similar device that reads the state of a switch but doesn’t control a load? I can definitely use the Qubino for a control input and not use the load but there might be a better dedicated option. I don’t want to hack a battery operated device like a door contact sensor for in wall use.
If you didn't connect the quibino output to anything, then this would control the load. However you would want to make sure that whatever device you were getting didn't require a momentary contact for the external switch device.
My question is this....why go through all this trouble? You can extend the switchplate without cutting into your wall by using any of the button controllers that have a wall mount. For example, if you wanted to add a Lutron Pico next to an outlet, all you would have to do is remove the 1 gang faceplate, then mount the Pico's wall bracket next to the outlet. Then just put a 2-gang faceplate over the whole thing. Once that's done, it would look just like a 2-gang box from the outside but you wouldn't have had to touch anything in the box at all. This is done frequently when you use a pico to add a 3-way control where you don't want to remove the other switch at the 3-way location.
Yes. That's correct.
Yup, adding a double gang faceplate with a Pico is what I realized in the last sentence of post #3.
For the most part I want the light automated but also want easily understandable controls for guests. I’m also dealing with a part of the house that was built in 1954 so sometimes things aren’t as easy as you would like. Combined with block construction it can be a challenge to retrofit.
With that said I think the plan of attack might be to hardwire the light with a smart bulb. Replace the switch/plug with a dual outlet GFI and add a double gang plate with Pico. There will also be a motion sensor so the Pice would just be a backup.
Sometimes you just need to talk things through. Not sure how long it would have taken me to come up with the same solution without asking. Besides, I found a cool new relay in the process.
I'll admit to not reading every word of every post. It confirmed that you were right though, didn't it?