As a follow up, is there any difference between using a "per mode" action and entering an action for Day Mode only, versus adding an "if day" condition before the action you want to fire?
That wouldn't work, because I want the trigger to be time of day. If it is already cloudy at sunrise, then that trigger won't fire. The cloud condition looks pretty straightforward, as all it does it check to see if the number is greater than 30. It just isn't activating the scene.
I will try adding a "day mode" condition and them straight scene activation instead of an "action per mode" scene activation and see if that does anything.
The way your rule is setup the actual trigger is the cloudiness which is then conditioned with the time. Which is fine but I'm not sure if the rule will trigger more than once after the cloudiness stays over 30.
i.e. Cloudiness is goes from 29 to 30, rule triggers, but time is outside the range therefore the scene doesn't fire. I'm not sure the rule will ever trigger again until the cloudiness goes below 30 then hits 30+ again. So if the cloudiness stays at 30+ and the Time does now come into the window the rule actions will never fire it because it won't be 'triggered' again.
Oh sorry, you're right! I wasn't looking at the rule when I replied; I was going by memory. That's exactly the problem. Your suggestion will work, but not if the clouds stay constant all day. I am going to rethink the logic on this, but if all else fails, I can use your suggestion plus a separate time of day trigger, with an "if cloudiness" condition, to capture the situation where it's already a cloudy state above 30 in the morning, and cloudiness doesn't change.
Yes, correct; you could just add a second trigger for the earliest time in your condition to force the rule to trigger at least once even if the cloudiness is consistently 30+.
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