I now have 4 SmartThings hub's added to my equipment museum along with lots of X10 and other devices. Nothing seems to last anymore I used to get 10 years out of a platform and now it seems to be a 2 to 3 year cycle. At least the ZigBee and Z-Wave devices stayed mostly compatible and don't have to gut switches and endpoints like I did when removing X10 and PCS switches.
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Theoretically HE should last until the hardware gives out... so you might regain some of that longevity.
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Smartthings should just have built another hub that works completely differently that works with different hardware.............Oh hang on, they have done that with their existing hubs
After watching Samsung release a bleeding edge prosumer dslr with HVEC encoded 4K recording and high end lens options, and then just axe the entire camera division, I can only imagine that they are making these changes to the platform so that they can bail on that as well.
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I ordered the latest C7 hub, planning to be a refugee from Smartthings. One of the main reasons is that it uses similar code for device handlers, so I'm hoping stuff can function similarly.
I'd be competent enough to set up HASS but I hear Node-Red is a hassle...and I am a huge fan of webcore, just an amazing app that totally transformed smartthings for me...that is until the classic app sunset, and I'm sure also eventually the IDE.
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I'd say that's a False. 
Setting up Node-Red is dominantly a NodeJS task. If you already have NodeJS running for another reason, it's easy to add another JS task.
But it's even easier than that 
if you want it to be. There are more than a few recipies for installing in one go, Node-Red on a Raspberry Pi.
I have a favorite example, because I created it.. but it was based on other's work, so I know it's pretty simple, after all. Here's a SD Card Image that will boot to a working copy of BOTH Node-Red and Homebridge. Use one, use both, it doesn't care.
There's also a video that helps get you started:
Assuming 2 things: You have a Raspberry Pi and an SD card you can image, and about an hour, you could be running Node-Red.
I do not use a rPi for myself BUT it is the way I experimented to determine that I needed a permanent instance of Node-Red. These days, it's just one of many NodeJS packages running on my always on Mac Mini (media server).
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Kidding of course - yaml rocks! 
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The only thing I still use ST for is for my Foscam cameras inside my home and presence sensor using my iPhone through webCoRE which pass through hub connect. I am using RBoys camera app to arm / disarm my cameras for motion detection while I am not home which send email and save pictures and video to my NAS upon motion detection. Mainly the camera interaction is why I keep ST up and running but the webCoRE presence sensing with my phone has never failed me unlike other methods of presence. I really wish HE could get onboard with providing built in support for cameras.
Interesting. I used to run HASS just for some basic things Smartthings couldn't do (TTS, LG WebOS, and maybe a couple other things)
I watched that tutorial video (most of it), I think I'd get the hang of it if need be.
I'm at the point where all I have left to migrate is my ThingShield that hacks into the security system. Do you have any pointers for me, @ogiewon?
Are you running my ST_Anything on your Arduino? Or something else? Probably should take this conversation to a private message discussion.
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I'm leaving Smartthings. They just converted me to the New App and lost all my scenes and told me oh well. Then I found out the new App doesn't support Harmony anymore. So I bought a Hubitat I guess I'll find out if I can convert all my stuff off Smartthings. I heard Harmony works with it... I hope.
Yes, you can use your Hamony Hub with Hubitat using the integration that I wrote a while back. It will create a child 'switch' device for all of your Activities, including one called "PowerOff". There is always one, and only one of these Activity switches in the 'On' state. If none of your actual Activites are 'on', the "PowerOff" one will be 'on'.
The one thing people miss is the fact that there is no way to associate Hubitat devices to the Harmony remote control's 'smart device' buttons. This is due to the fact that the integration is a direct connection to the Harmony Hub over the LAN, and there is no way to make that association that I have found. If you have Phlips Hue or Lutron, you can directly associate those devices with those remote control buttons using their Logitech integrations. Unfortunately, Logitech is not accepting any more integrations, otherwise Hubitat would have done so already.
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And now it does indeed appear that Samsung is getting out of the SmartThings hardware business.
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We could now be seeing many signals that Samsung wants their appliances to be integrated but doesn't want to own the hubs or platform from a legacy perspective. In their next generation of connected appliances they may go with the big two Google or Amazon and just rely on the new Zigbee standards.
Looks like Aeotec now will be providing the v3 ST Hub...
https://products.z-wavealliance.org/products/3994?selectedFrequencyId=-1
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ST getting out of HW biz? Maybe why the ST leak sensors seemed to go MIA recently...
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Wow that's kind of wild. Better than just shutting the platform down I guess. Wonder where Aeotec will take this... Also I wonder where that leaves Samsungs WiFi Mesh/ST platform.
Could it be some sort of "licensed hub" thing I wonder?
I downloaded the manual and there was no branding on it.. interesting.
I really do believe that Samsung is exiting the Smart Home hardware business. They have to be losing money on it, as the cloud server and support costs far outweigh any margins received on the hubs and devices they sold. I believe they will focus on the cloud as a platform, and will partner with other companies to make the hubs. In order to provide some continuity, it appears that Aeotec will be selling the current ST v3 hubs.
All speculation on my part, but it fits with the data that has been found/shared/leaked thus far.
Samsung's goal is to sell Appliances, Televisions, and Phones. That's where the high volume and profit margins are to be found.
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