Can anyone recommend a smart lock solution compatible w/Hubitat that might work with this type of door? It’s an exterior sliding glass door that doesn’t have a traditional door knob/lock set; I’m unaware of a smart lock out there with the right kind of form factor that could be retrofitted here. Trying to avoid having to replace the entire door with one that has a traditional door knob/deadbolt if at all possible.
Any & all thoughts/suggestions welcomed.
I don't have a solution for you but I did get halfway there with a similar problem. I installed a contact sensor and glued a magnet to the lock latch so when the lock is locked the contact sensor is closed. Then I created a virtual lock and a rule to mirror the virtual lock to the contact sensor. It will not let me lock or unlock the door but it will at least tell me if the door is locked.
This one looks like the style, but it works only on specific Andersen doors.
I got excited when I first saw that lock but unfortunately it’s for French doors and not sliders. I haven’t found any smart locks for slider doors. Kinda makes sense because sliders are usually more complicated with multiple lock points, at least newer ones are.
What about a latching solenoid in the upper and lower tracks that extends to block the door from sliding.
Hadn't considered that approach in lieu of a lock assembly. I'm wanting to be able to secure the door to help to deter someone who could become an elopement risk. Are there any suppliers out there that make a Z-Wave or Zigbee (preferred) solenoid kit to easily retrofit to a sliding glass door?
Me too ... but alas I dont think what I'm looking for actually exists
Far as I know there are no sliding door smart stuff like locks at all. It is a huge untapped market.
You could use a Zigbee or Zwave relay, and off the shelf solenoids, but that sounds a bit too homebrewed for most people's homes. I don't think I would want that on my door anyway.
That's a good tip/technique for monitoring the locking status of any slider type door for sure. That may be the best I can expect to do short of replacing the door all together.
Seems like a contact sensor + siren would fit the bill just as well, wouldn't it?
True on untapped market but unfortunately each slider manufacturer has its own lock and no standards. Handles look the similar but locking mechanism varies quite a bit between manufacturers.
May end up having to go that route
I used a mag-lock just like this for my boiler room door (external door on side of house that originally just had a barrel-bolt style lock with no knob or latch into the jamb.)
It was actually quite simple and cheap to do and works very well.
I ordered the mag-lock (~$12) which is normally open (power activates lock) and it runs on a 12v supply, of which I had several left over wall-warts that fit this. So I just plugged that into a switched receptacle and viola, power on = lock and power off = unlocked.
I specifically chose normally open because if anything fails with zwave, I just kill the breaker to that room and the door unlocks.
I cam across this thread looking for a solution to the sliding door and really think I might just do this again bc of how cheap and easy. Also, mag-locks are surprisingly strong considering. Just make sure to leave the screw on the plate a tad loose so the chunk of metal can tweak/adjust that needed 1mm or so. When it's properly aligned it's strong and when off just a bit it's barely holding. Magnets are all about proximity so if it's not seating perfectly, it's significantly less hold power.
From what you are saying, my personal big worry with this is that if the power to your house goes out, the door would then be unlocked? Personally I would want it to be the other way around.
Yeah I can't argue on that point - but my worries are heavier on my zwave system not responding than a perp during a power outage. PotAto, PotOto lol. Just saying that the maglock worked better than I thought, it was sort of a temp solution for me that I've been happy enough with not to change yet... You can just get the normally closed version... Here's the one I got. Fail safe = locks with power. Fail Secure = unlocks with power
Following. I got here also looking for a connected way to lock my sliding patio door.