Send Notification from a Rule Machine rule?

[wj72]

Is it really not possible to trigger a phone app notification (like the Notification app can do) from within Rule Machine?

My use case is I have a temp/vibration sensor on my dryer and when it stops I want to receive a notification. In Rule Machine I would like the trigger to be "no vibration for 1 minute" and then trigger a notification as long as the sensor temp is >25C or so to cover cases where the dryer is being loaded etc.

I realize a workaround would be to use a virtual switch, turn that switch on when the dryer stops, and use that switch in the Notification app to send the notification....

Or use some 3rd party thing (Pushover) but I would like to avoid this convolution if possible, otherwise they pile up and then you have a real mess.

[markbellkosel84]

"send/speak message" is a choice in actions. That is what you want. Just select the mobile app device.

[bravenel]

Sure you can. Just choose the mobile device as the notification device.

[wj72]

Thanks. I really wish this stuff was more intuitive. At some point I'll probably switch to WebCore to avoid this.

[jlv]

@wj72

I really wish this stuff was more intuitive

I find sending a notification from RM very intuitive. "Send/Speak a message" seems pretty obvious, and the rule ends up making sense.

This sends a popup notification to my phone (John) and also sends the same notification as an email (via [RELEASE] Google Calendar, Task, and Gmail Search and Gmail Notification Device).

[jlv]

@jlv

This sends a popup notification to my phone

What I actually find nice about this is that I get the notification on my phone from Hubitat 3-4 minutes before I get the notification from Tesla's own app (I suspect Tesla delays it on purpose -- but I want to know ASAP when the power is out).

[jlv]

@bravenel I did just now have a small difficulty when adding an action to activate a scene. In Rule-5.1, the outer Select label no longer says Activate Scene:

I went back to an old (Rule-4.0) instance where I had a scene activated to find it. It was more obvious back then:

Could "Activate Scenes" be added back to the drop down selection?

[LibraSun]

@jlv

Could "Activate Scenes" be added back to the drop down selection?

See earlier discussions about this topic:

MISSING FEATURE? Room Lighting "scenes" omitted from RM's 'Activate Scene' action

The "Scenes" referred to in this action have been retired. This particular action will be retired as well. Many Means to Activate a Room Lights automation are available, but "Scenes" is not one of them.

[2.3.3.121] - Scenes and Room Lighting

It's the same for RL but for one thing: RM does not 'see' RL 'scenes', the way it can see an old 'Scene-1.2'. The the same effect can be done by turning on the Activation Device of the RL 'scene' (as could also be done with Scene-1.2). Under the covers in RM, all activating a Scene-1.2 amounts to is turning on its activator device.

[rlithgow1]

@wj72

I really wish this stuff was more intuitive

Very easy. This one sends to my phone and a speaker (well not anymore as I've removed my echos in favor of homepods)

[brad5]

@wj72

wish this stuff was more intuitive

I understand your point. There is a bit of a learning curve with RM and though there have been significant improvements in the UI the emphasis has been on expanding functionality. However, it does have a certain internal logic and flow, and once you kinda figure it out you do develop kind of an RM "instinct."

[bertabcd1234]

@wj72

probably switch to WebCore to avoid this.

FWIW, webCoRE also makes you choose a notification device, either a "default" in the parent app (really an artifact from SmartThings, where notifications are an action you perform at the account level) or on a particular action itself (like Rule Machine, both owning to the fact that notifications are regular commands in regular devices, like any other command, on Hubitat).