@bcopeland I just had an opportunity to do an actual replace (an older Zooz Multisiren for a newer version). When I did the replace, I got a pop-up asking about security levels. When I un-checked the boxes, they automatically "re-checked" themselves about a half-second later. IOW, I could not unch…

That may be true but thankfully we have the ability to update the Z-Wave chipset firmware.

[image] erktrek: some repeaters I've got a Ring Gen 2 repeater--and my house simply isn't very large. The farthest point from the hub is no more than 40-50 feet (and, no matter where I put the thing, it doesn't seem to get used). ONE device is using it right now. This morning, a device 5 fee…

Yeah I've been noticing some flaky behavior on some of my switches as well. I combine behavior via Maker and Node-RED. Some of my previously working sequences no longer work all the time. Seems like either a latency issue or some sort of message storm (repeated messages). Dunno if its the HE or Z-wa…

[image] bill.d: I'm convinced that the 700 series chipset is at best 1/2 baked. Actually, I suspect that it's not the chipset itself, but all the rules & regulations a 3rd party manufacturer has to look at when wanting to certify their Z-Wave device.

If the device has a 700 series chip it must comply with the Zwave Plus V2 spec: [image] Z-Wave Mesh Network Protocol Specification - Silicon Labs Looking to develop solutions with Silicon Labs Z-Wave products? Stay abreast of the latest Z-Wave mesh networking protocol specifications here. …

[image] erktrek: Any device that does not meet these specs would be legally liable As Z-Wave has become an an open standard a while ago, I don't think this still applies, if it ever did? Anyone please feel free to correct me if this is wrong.

[image] Mr.Olsen: Anyone please feel free to correct me if this is wrong. Certification would be revoked if the standard is not met.

Thanks. But I think everyone would be allowed to put a Z-Wave device on the market without needing to certify it before? The only restriction seems that he's not allowed to print the label on the package/device?

[image] Mr.Olsen: The only restriction seems that he's not allowed to print the label on the package/device? Yep. Many people look for that as a must have. https://products.z-wavealliance.org/products/3921?selectedFrequencyId=2

Yeah, but I remember having bought my C7 without any certification, also the prior versions seemed to work fine without, or has a certification not been necessary because of the external Z-Wave stick? Just curious. :wink:

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bertabcd1234 October 7, 2020, 6:32pm 86

While both true, Hubitat's certification was not officially announced until August 14:

So, everyone had one; they just didn't know it yet.