OK I am stumped. I have (1) room lighting scene setup that is based on Day, Evening and Night modes. Basically I only what the scene to come on IF i press the scene activator or a virtual switch and once on, it automatically changes to Evening or Night as the mode changes. My problem is, when the mode changes to Day, at 6:30 in the morning, the light automatically comes on and wake me up! Am I going about this all wrong or does the setting "Adjust light on Mode changes" override all other activation disablement options. I have tried to disable that by using the "Disable Activation upon these Events", but they still do not stop it.
Make sure that the Room Lighting instance is turned off when you go to sleep. If Room Lighting is active, it will automatically adjust with the mode change and turn on the light when day mode happens. Based on your means to turn off, make sure to turn off the activator switch when you go to bed.
OK, I will try that but here is problem number 2. I had to set "Select Indicator Use" to If Any Are On so that it would actually change when the mode changes. If I set it to Only if All Are On (which would be my preferred setting), the Activator turns off for some reason that I cannot figure out. See below, All the lights seem to be set per the table but the Activator is off.
That is a lot going on for one Room Lighting instance. Besides the Hue bulbs, what are the other types of devices. Based on your indicator behavior, I wonder if all the devices are receiving the command. It might make sense to break some of this up into smaller groups of the same device type. For instance, when I use hue bulbs, I almost always use a hue group or zone with hue scenes to set them assuming they are connected to a hue bridge. If you want to keep trying to get this one to work, I’d deselect the indicator option altogether.
The next thing I would do is remove the other switches that turn on the Room Lighting. I would create basic rules that have those other switches turn on the Activator device. This way only the Activator device turns on and off this instance. Use other rules to control it. Basically, what will happen is the mode change would only happen if the activator device is on.
Thanks for your reply JB10. I am back on this now that New Years is over with. Yes, that instance sets the lighting for the condo throughout the day and night. Besides the Hue bulbs, most everything is Lutron connected with the Pro hub. I'll consider leaning on the Hue Zones but I prefer all settings in HE because it's backed up.
I think your recommendation to use Rule Machine to control it me be the way to go. I was originally doing that with RM and Groups/Scenes but wanted to take advantage of Room Lighting and hopefully make it simpler, but I guess it is not going to work that way. I have quite a few Scenes/Modes (Basic Day, evening and Night, then a Christmas Scene, Wife Chilax mode, Astros Mode, 4th of July, etc.) that I wanted to simplify by just switching the mode and letting Room Lighting do the rest. I guess I am going to still need Rule Machine to some degree.
But I still do not understand why the Activator on my RL Day instance is turning off because it looks like HE sees everything set properly in the Instance table. I guess I may never know...
My lighting is primarily Hue and Lutron as well. Knowing this, I cannot emphasize enough that you lean on scenes from both systems and input them into Hubitat. Lutron scenes get brought in via the hub as buttons. Hue scenes can be accessed by one of the community hue apps (I personally use CoCoHue, but Advanced Hue would work too). Room Lighting will work exactly as you want going this way. Your Room Lighting would only have two lines per mode:
Day
Hue Scene On/Off
Lutron Button 1 on/2 off (or whatever button numbers get brought it)
You would have no popcorn effect and most likely be pretty happy with the results.
Here is a sample to show you. In day mode, when Room Lighting Activates, it will turn on the Family Room Energize Hue scene and set my Lutron switches to scene three. When Room Lighting turns off, it will turn off both the hue and Lutron lights.
Depending on your modes switch, you would be able to leverage Room Lighting to handle all of this while also using the strengths of Hue and Lutron.
Thank you for the info and the example. I will probably migrate that direction over time. One thing I just thought of is that my Lutron integration is using a list setup rather than the integrated setup. I do not think Integrated was available some years ago when i first set up HE. Can I just switch it to Integrated so it sees the Scenes or will I need to reconfigure all my Lutron devices?
You can’t switch but it doesn’t matter. The Lutron integration report has the scene/button numbers. All you need to do is bring your bridge into Hubitat. The Lutron hub comes in as a keyboard and you just use the scene number from the report.
