Proper Three-Way switch setup using Associations

Yes. I want to add associate device 6C with 6D. 6D is physically tied to the load. 6C is not. I want the 6C/6D combo to act as a three-way switch. It's hideously slow with a rule. Both are GE toggle switches.

The z-wave reports seems to associate 108 with 6C:

I am putting in 6C, which is the DNI. I think it's hex.

Got it. That sounds right.

Since it shows up in the group association report, I have no idea why the other device isn't working. Weird.

It's not the C7, is it?

Doubt it. Once associations are setup the traffic doesn't even use/go through the hub. It is device to device, by definition.

But I will admit that I'm not an association expert. I know how they work, but I don't even use associations anymore.

I wouldn't either, but pressing the physical switch is SO slow. From the dashboard, fine.

Yeah, the physical switch doesn't report in for quite a while. I can see how that wouldn't be much fun.

If you don't care about the nice fading in/out you can adjust some settings and speed up the reporting, which would then speed up the hub side logic. But it will never be nearly as fast as a direct association.

I've got a toggle switch.

Oops, sorry.

Yeah, even with a switchj it takes about a second for physical on/off to report in since it is a scene controller device. It's true of many/any scene controller based device as it has to wait and see if you are doing a single tap or a double/triple tap.

I do think that GE might have made the "wait to see if it is single/double/or triple tap" a little long though.

None of that explains why the associations aren't working either. What kind of device is the load device? Another GE or something else? Shouldn't matter as association group 2 is usually the right one for what you are trying to do.

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They're identical new GE/Jasco Enbrighten toggle switches.

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You posted this picture in an earlier post:


The device name at the top of this is labelled "BSMT Lights, Right(No Load)" in a later post you state this:

Therefore am I right to assume the switch in the picture posted above that is labelled "BSMT Lights, Right(No Load)" is switch 6C? If so that is your problem you are trying to associate switch 6C with itself. That is what the picture shows.

@JasonJoel's drivers allow you to associate a switch with itself, or at least it will show up in "State Variables". I have no idea what associating a switch with itself would do, but I imagine it wouldn't work.

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I was wrong. 6C is attached to the load. 6D is not. Sorry.

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No problem, just trying to help. :grinning:

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It's weird that a little while ago when I tried to associate a Zen29 motion sensor, using the Zooz driver, to some switches, it also didn't work.

I got it!
The switches are in the basement and I'm lazy.
I had tried the physical switches before with no luck, but tonight I did it from the luxury of the living room couch while watching a rerun of Magnum PI.
For laughs, I just went down there and tried the physical switch. It works! Not instantaneous, but much much better!

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@Stephan.J Thanks for the info. I was able to add the custom driver for the red series dimmer. I have tried just about every way to associate and it still doesn't work. Here's a screen shot of my "satellite device" that I have tried to association with DNI 15 (hex 0F).

Anyone else have any clues why one person's association works and mine doesn't with the same driver and devices?

A DNI of 15 is equal to a hex of 15. I don't understand:

I understand hexadecimal format and "15" is definitely part of hexadecimal format.

15 (hexadecimal format) = 21 (decimal format). The DNI listed in hubitat is already in hexadecimal format.

This is so frustrating. With Z-Wave Tweaker you could use associations on generic dimmers and switches. I have old Linear/GoControl switches all over my house, and nobody seems to have found a way to get Hubitat to do the associations for us.

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I associated both to each other for both sets of 3 ways. This way the little blue light comes on when the far switch is on. Seems to act the same otherwise.

Have you got some example code of enabling association options in your driver?

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