Opinion Stelpro Baseboard Thermostst Zigbee or Z-wave? (Solved)

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Hello Friends:

I want to install 4 high voltage baseboard thermostats and 2 low voltage fireplace thermostats.

I see Stelpro has some nice baseboarders both Z-wave and Zigbee.

I have several devices already on both protocols, and was wondering if the drivers for Zigbee have any advantages over the Z-wave driver or vise versa?

I haven't looked into the low voltage 'stats yet but it'd be nice if they had similar functionally in Hubitat.

Opinions?

Thanks, Mark.

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Hang on, I see I may have misled myself. I thought I was looking at Stelpro, then I somehow switched to Sinope. So now I am doing more research to clear up my confusion.

Anyway, opinions on either of these would be appreciated.

Thanks, M.

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Can't comment on Stelpro but I do have Sinope 240V baseboard Zigbee thermostats with the advanced community driver and could not be happier, I'm building a new house next year with in floor hydronic heating and will be using there low voltage thermostat for sure!

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Hi nclark:

Thanks for your input,

I have a question that I'm sure I am misreading somehow.

The Specs read minimum wattage (for the 240V application) is 300W.

In your experience, does the baseboard heater output 300W when the room temp is above the set-point?

I'm pretty sure that isn't so, but the documentation seems pretty clear that 300W is the minimum. It must be 300W minimum when the thermostat is calling for heat and zero when it isn't calling for heat.

Mark.

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Do you have a screen shot of this? I know that like most baseboard thermostats, there is a min load for it to work correctly (240V 500W for the TH1123ZB and TH1124ZB models) but I'm not seeing what you are talking about.

Also be careful as they have both WiFi and Zigbee versions of the same thermostat, WiFi is not supported in HE, so you will need to get the Zigbee version.

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I have been doing a lot of research into Thermostats, and found one requirement of mine is difficult.

I have 2 Natural Gas fireplaces using millivolt thermostats as well as 4 baseboard setups.

One issue is we have frequent power outages and I want heat when the power is out hence the millivolt fireplace controllers. These require battery operation and I want Zigbee or Z-Wave. VERY few of these devices exist. Most require a 24V power supply and that won't function if the power is out.

Ideally, I'd like all the thermostats to look and work the same, but alas that is not to be.

So I think I am going with the 2GIG 2GIG-STZ-1 millivolt thermostats, and the Sinope TH1123 thermostat for the baseboards.

Thanks for your time and I'll get back here when I outfit my home more with my opinions.

Mark.

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Update:

I ordered a Sinope Baseboard thermostat to start,

NOTE, The shipping cost me as much as the product. They poped up a message telling me shipping will be handled by UPS and there may be extra cost due to Tariff's. After researching I thought that was about 10%. Nope, it was a LOT more.

A good company will calculate shipping at the time of purchase, Sinope didn't.

After they shipped it (from Canada) I got a message from UPS telling me I was going to owe them (UPS) another $104. The thermostat was only $114, so that was close to 100%.

Anyway it left a bad taste in my mouth. That damn thermostat better work perfectly for the nest 100 years.

Mark.

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I won't be going into politics but it has nothing to do with Sinope, it's your current elected government that imposes tarifs to the end user.

Also UPS is probably the worst shipper for cross border shipping for the buyer but the best for the smaller shipper as they handle the customs 100% and then pass the expense to the end buyer instead of having to deal with a customs broker and often absorbing part of the fees.

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Just to button up this thread, I am really happy with the Sinope Zigbee Baseboard Thermostat.

It has no real brains of it's own as in you can't program it to come on at a time and temp like a smart thermostat but, of course, with Hubitat that isn't really needed.

You can set a temp, turn it on and off.

I have a contact sensor on the bedroom window, and when the wife opens or closes the window, I made a rule to turn the thermostat off or on. Then I set the temp at various times. It's nice that when I set a temp, if it's off, it will stay off.

It's also pretty looking.

Just FYI, I installed the sacua driver (because I didn't know Hubitat had a native one) and I never got that one to work at all.

When I used the native Hubitat Driver, all is good.

Mark.