[OPINION] Button Controllers

These look interesting, was just about to order one, but noticed the labeling length looks like it might frustrate (for my needs). Seems like "Goodnight" is the longest label. Nine letters...this could lead to some tortured abbreviations for my use-cases (allowing wife to set individual lights and blinds dim levels in rooms).

@bcopeland thanks for reminding me about this device. I have one I bought a little over a year ago. Shortly after getting it and creating a functional, yet admittedly ugly device handler for it (the built-in DTH didn't exist yet), we moved, so it went in one of my boxes of "good stuff". I need to get it back out and use it on an upcoming project.

@k5map you could accomplish what you are wanting, IF you want to create a lot of code and RM actions. The device has the ability to do display text in 3 or 4 styles. One of those is negative text (white on black background). If you think you want to venture down this path, the question you should be asking your self is not "Can I do this?" but "Do I feel lucky?" :smiley:

In any event, this is a really nice device that typically has a very high SAF (Spousal Approval Factor). My spouse isn't OK with more that one click, so if I need to present more than one option at one location, this is the type of device I will use.

@danabw, the number of characters depends on the specific characters used and the font used. Nine is a good target as your maximum character count. It isn't worth the struggle to try to get more than that. The most I ever put on one line and could see on the display was 12. My suggestion: just target about 9 characters and enjoy the functionality.

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Thanks for that info, helpful. I think I'll pass for now...I showed it to her and she said "I don't want to trade my Picos for that."

Yes mam, understood and moving on. :wink:

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I would like to see triple tap added. I map this to button 3 press on the driver. Anything more than triple tap is probably a bit to much, you start getting lost on how many you have done.

Multiple devices support up to 5x tap... Just saying.

Personally that's just far to much and not user-friendly :thinking:

hahaha - three taps is my limit & that's for really rare things. My wife has managed to remember the function of maybe three double taps in my house.

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Yeah, but if they go through the work to add triple, quad and penta isn't much additional work.

Odds are they aren't going add anything at all, I'm just pointing out going to 5x would cover all the devices I know about.

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Back in my ST days i had a Xiaomi button controlling a bedside bulb.
1 click set to toggle/dim to 25%, Double dim to 50%, Triple to 75% and quad to 100%
Girlfriend loved it and actually miss that setup.. :slight_smile:

@AnubizDK, that is the only ration use of multi-click capabilities I have heard yet. Everything else is really morse code for most people. I may have to borrow this use case though. Thanks! :smiley:

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I've joked about this before but was half serious. :slight_smile:

Like you, I'm not holding my breath, but it seems a lot of new scene switches/dimmers/remotes support up to 5 taps, and this would be a clean-ish way to accommodate them without needing to do button-number arithmetic (my preferred workaround given the circumstances), awkwardly usurp button attributes for odd purposes (Inovelli, I love you, but...), use custom attributes/events (not really usable outside RM or a custom app), or forget about them entirely.

And I understand where they're coming from, but I am indeed capable of remembering 5 taps if I use sufficient mnemonic devices (taps up are vaguely "on" for me and correspond to either that or cooler temperatures; down taps remind me of "off" and are for that or warm temperatures, and the fifth tap that is maybe otherwise hard to remember is often a mode change--down for night, for example, again reminiscent of "off "), which also makes it easier to remember. I'm totally fine writing custom drivers for what I need, but this is a question I've seen from new users, too.

But perhaps a more generic approach would be better: "scene number" and "key attribute" might be a bit too Z-Wave-centric for a platform event, but "quintuple tappable butron" also means lots of capabilities just for this...all probably part of why they've never done this. But I can dream. :slight_smile:

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@erktrek & Charleton Heston

Just popped in before signing off for the night. Saw this and went “hmm”
Have been looking for something other than the standard fare of bulbs/outlets/switches/etc. to satisfy my HE addiction, but the price is at our self-imposed maximum where it is best to check with the other person on the bank account before clicking Buy Now.
I presented it to the wife like this “honey, would this make your life easier?” which elicited a positive reply. :sunglasses::roll_eyes:

Better get to bed before I spend more $$

Update: Nexia touchpad has arrived! Haven’t given any thought what the buttons will do. So many possibilites!

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This looks like it has potential. It's always been a mystery to me the dearth of high quality and good looking multi-button controllers for Z-Wave and Zigbee. Lutron has it more or less nailed in the RadioRA 2 line, but theirs are significantly higher priced.

My first thought when I saw this was something like Oh! Shiny! And of course, I wanted one. And then I realized that I could by about 5 pico remotes for the same price... Though choice to make... cause, you know... Shiny!!!

I’ll let the thought brew for a bit, I’m sure I’ll figure out a useful use case eventually... I’m at a point though where everything is automated and generally just works, so it’s hard to justify buying more buttons...

I seem to have an ever expanding set of devices that I am meaning to get to one of these days.. thanks in no small part to Bryan and the rest of the crew at HE.

@wayne.pirtle... LOL, can't thank you enough about giving me hope!

BTW... its not a matter if I feel lucky but when I decided I've written so much code that still doesn't work that I want to shoot myself. :slight_smile:

:rofl: @k5map I know what you mean.

I think I would buy more Android phones for $20-30 each without data plans and put HE dashboard(s) on them instead. I have already done that in a couple of places. In my use case, wall mounted is preferred and with Tasker & a smart plug, I can keep them charged within a safe percentage.

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I prefer this :smiley:

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The Android dashboard is extremely customizable and powerful if you're using Android devices...the author is incredibly responsive and active. One of the coolest community-developed tools around.