Off-topic rant about security

This was required for some secure devices like locks and garage door openers in the past, but I don't think it's generally good advice. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. In particular, 700-series Z-Wave devices must support both S2 and network-wide inclusion, so they should pair fine wherever they are in the mesh via whatever method you choose; I believe these features are or at least were both optional (I know S2 later became mandatory) in 500-series devices but still widely implemented.

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For the most part you are correct @bertabcd1234 the exception being if there are devices in the path that do not support network wide inclusion. But it doesn’t hurt to join closely. The network will settle eventually.

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I've not generally had much luck with door locks unless the hub is within a few feet. Sadly, only one is a newer generation one (and the driver isn't picking things up liked I'd expect with that one).

Door locks are usually a bit more trouble.. One of their security “features” used to be including at low power. Which is where a lot of the advice of pairing close to the hub came from.

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When can we expect the zwave issues to be fixed :pensive:

What will be included in the 2.2.4 release :pensive:

Shortly.. We took the unusual step of putting a hotfix into beta. There were massive code changes and we want to be sure we aren’t introducing new problems.

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You mean "...we want to be sure we're only introducing a few relatively insignificant new problems while we fix some really big ones."

At least, that's how my dev team always felt about it... :slight_smile:

Send me the beta, @bcopeland, I'll beat the crap out of it for you. :smiley:

If everything was done perfectly the first time, there'd be no need for new releases. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Exactly! You complete me. :wink:

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finally got most of my devices added ..not easy, and very frustation with reboots and failed joins and deletion of orphaned devices..My zwave table is now clean!

had to downrade to 2.2.2 and still froze a couple of times and has to restore a backup..when it froze i got the hub busy messages in the std log and no activity whatsoever in the zwave logs.. usually after a failed join, and most times an attempt at an s2 join.
I basically gave up on those as those wouldnt work unless next to the hub which is not doable for light switches.. I actually found an older xzwave plus swith and other devices like aeon repeater v 6 that dont join in s2 and greatly made things easier for me..

I think something in the database is getting corrupted .. Anyway after i restored a backup i was able to delete the offending node that failed to add in the zwave..

i have about 65 zwave devices, 96 total devices of about 6 are virtual switches..

i think i will get a 2nd hub as a sandbox to play trying new devices for joines etc, so as not to screw up what i now had great difficulty getting working.

At least until the hub recorvery complete with radios is avail.

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1 more water sensor to join (waitng to get zwave plus ecolink from amazon) one outdoor light string then i will finish the port of my garden hue app.
also one more presence sensor to join when we next have the truck in town. and also waiting on a newer hue outdoor motion so i can get true local outdoor temps. time for a drink and a nap..
only thing left on my smartthings hub here are those devices above, and shared hue and kasa/tplink cloud switches, and a spruce sprinkler system.

Cant' wait to get home to our other house in nh that has over 200 devices.. (not)

I wrote a fairly significant application starting in 1998.

We rolled out the initial release in 1999-I think some folks wondered why it took so long.

We then worked on some of the known missing features and various tweaks until about 2006.

Zero code changes after that (despite some significant changes to how we used it, which we addressed with parameter changes and the built-in tables). And we kept using it until I believe sometime in 2013. There was one bug in the code that we never had to fix, because a parameter change took care of it. :slight_smile:

I'm still using some scripts that I initially wrote in or before 1985, with only some minor tweaks (mostly, to deal with changed platforms--moving from IBM VM/CMS to TSO on MVS to Windows).

:stuck_out_tongue:

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That's pretty cool...parameters can be your best friend.

Most interesting and impressive to me, it looks like you haven't really worked since 2006.

[bowing and backing away]
You are my hero.

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Ha! If only.

We migrated that to a different platform.

I was a System Programmer (IBM Mainframes) then wrote that app (our Centralized Password Administration System--so, yeah, not a minor thing!), then a Linux Systems Administrator (Enterprise Backups, Lotus Notes Email, Internal email gateway, and Security Plans).

Now, I'm a Cyber Security Compliance guy--but the Admin for a key tool we use for that purpose (I'd go nuts if all I did was security plans) I really do love coding & stuff (that might just be why I've had like 4+ all nighters and twice that many nights with <4 hours sleep (on work nights) since I started with the Hubitat about 3 weeks ago (migrating everything from ADT Pulse). :smiley:

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Dude. :slight_smile:

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Yes. My first programming classes used punch cards. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Me too... On a 360. :slight_smile:

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An old joke that was played on newbies at my company...at programmer training (COBOL!!!!) the instructor would walk into the room w/a bunch of punch cards that the students had turned in the day before for review. While walking towards his desk he would trip "accidentally" and throw the entire box of punch cards across the floor in a huge mess. (The cards in the box were actually just a random set of cards.)

The expression on the class was not to be forgotten. :smiley:

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You seem to have a bucket load of devices on one page, if that is correct I would recommend reducing that. The option on dashboards to include all devices is making it easier for 90% of the customers who don't have alot of devices, but for any big system that should be disabled and only select the device you need for that page.
This massively reduces load on the hub as otherwise, each time you open that page every single device that is enabled on that page has to be loaded. The ones that tend to have a issue seems to be when they are leaving it open as then it's polling them all regularly. It's much better to have more manageable pages with links to those dashboards, like your also seem to have done :slight_smile: so its just warning on the common pitfalls :+1:.

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Me three... On a 360 in Cobol

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Thanks for the update! Can we expect the Inovelli red dimmer S2 inclusion issues to be fixed as well with the next release?