Tasker and Webcore? Would that a big learning curve, for a dumbass like me?
I'm missing SMS notices even though Pushover is nice.
I'm fairly thick to be honest. Check the post of mine - I made it as a reminder for myself on how to set things up again if I need to.
I'm sure you'll be fine. =D
Really excellent. I do this as well w/almost everything that I set up (HA stuff, networking configs what/why, NAS, RPIs, UPS, irrigation controls, etc.). I keep extensive notes and screen shots in OneNote so if things go south I can re-create my setups w/out starting over at "Huh?" Additional benefit that (as you have) can be useful to share w/others.
How adept are you at rooting your phone and working with ADB? Tasker is a PIA unless you want to do those things (and if you have a Samsung phone you run the risk of bricking your phone). Google has been limiting more and more of Tasker's abilities to the point it just wasn't worth it. SMS is a dying tech. It's only going to get harder to use it for these sorts of things.
Tasker is also Android only, don't remember what he uses...
Yeah. I know it sounds weird, but that was one of the things that affected why I switched from android. Every time I tried to do something in Tasker I ran into a developers note saying that functionality had been limited by google in a recent update and I would need to root my phone (Samsung) and use ABD to do what I wanted to do. Admittedly I have never been a huge fan of google, so it didn't take much to sway to switch. I was able to get some basic stuff done, but anything more advanced was just a mess, at least for me. I'm able to achieve everything i wanted to do on iOS with a lot less headache.
Yeah, I'm only using Tasker on my S21 for a few things right now, and haven't had to do anything special to make them work. They have to do with starting up my VPN if I'm on "foreign" Wi-Fi networks, and I used to use it for some presence stuff before the Owntracks integration.
Rooting phone? Adb? I haven't done any of that. Also, it's a samsung android phone that's sat there for more than two years, and happily informs me on a daily basis about when the garage door opens etc etc.
Anyone with a mobile phone has a mobile phone number. If you guys want to believe that installing custom software is more convenient and accessible than 'dying sms' then you're entitled to those beliefs. Do your neighbours all have pushover installed? Parents? Friends? Family? Mine certainly haven't.
Logically, I respectfully disagree
I love tech. I love cool things that can be done with clever software. The best way to send a simple message to any mobile is sms, and will be for quite some time to come.
SMS may or may not be dying, but itās certainly undergone changes over the years as a response to spam, robotexts, etc.
Cell carriers donāt care if you send a series of texts to your 10 family members to say āhappy birthday, grandma.ā
But if youāre trying to send a ābasement is wet!ā alert to five people, and 5,000 other Hubitat users are also trying to send a similar sms today, then that could create problems given the regulations that now exist for commercial use of SMS.
Hubitat decided at some point to avoid the financial or regulatory headaches of SMS usage by farming that particular feature out to a dedicated SMS provider, Twilio.
Everyone's needs are different. I donāt need to send an alert to someone that I canāt also ask to install an app or two on their phone to receive those alerts.
Iām not trying to give you grief over your preference for SMS in any way. Iām mostly just trying to point out that the realities of a commercial entity sending thousands of sms messages a day, and other messaging alternatives for smart phones, doesnāt mean SMS is the best option for everyone.
My 2022 MINI Cooper displays (only) text messages on its screen. Nothing else. I assume government (which gov't, who knows?) regulations.
edit: This is Android. Knowing MINI, it might be more Apple-centric.
I've looked into changing platforms; still might. Inertia is a thing.
Oh, I completely respect that side of things. Businesses sending sms texts have doubtlessly been hit by various additional costs over the years. One of the first things that annoyed me with smartthings was that PART of the reason I bought into the system in the first place was specifically for sms alerts. What did they do a few months later? They sacked-off the UK sms function. Probably due to costs.
Not expecting hubitat or anyone else to support sms out-of-the-box anymore, that ship has sailed long ago.
I also fully appreciate that, as with every other idea on the planet, everyone's needs are different. Completely agree. You commented that you for example probably wouldn't set up any HA alerts for a friend of neighbour unless you knew they were willing to I stall an app or two. Again, horses / courses.
My point respectfully remains that anyone who has a mobile phone can receive an sms - out of the box without the need for additional software, twilio, WhatsApp, Facebook messenger, pushover, telegram
.... The list goes on.
Therefore if I wanted to guarantee that a message can be sent, received and understood, (logically) sms is the most reliable choice.
I wouldn't ever think Christ, I'm lost in the middle of nowhere. I best send a WhatsApp to the local mountain rescue team. It would be text, call or both.
Wrapping up, of course I can appreciate a company doesn't choose to support native sms alerts. But if my house was on fire I'd be far more confident knowing I'd sent an sms to 10 of my neighbours rather than 10 twilios/etc. So I would always recommend to take the simplest route, which for me and countless others would be sms.
Ymmv.
I use my own server and domains for sms and have thought about offering emails and a service to fwd to carriers for sms for like 5 a month but as mentioned if the server starts sending out.too many sms emails it may get blocked.
The real solution would be hubitat to finally get ssl/tls over telnet working so i can get my sendmail working again for all carriers directly.