Looking for information on a smart plug that can monitor power and will never inadvertently get turned off.
I remember reading about such a plug someone was successfully using in a recent thread, but can't seem to find the right search terms to find the post.
I recently had a several episodes where some plugs started randomly turning on and off for no reason. Nothing in the logs, no power bumps, just glitches. Switched them from my C8 Pro to a C7 and all good for now.
But there's a few applications that don't need to switch, just monitor.
I'd prefer to never have to worry about them being turned off while in use.
i.e. Fridge, freezer, 3d printer.
So yes, there is an application for this type of hardware, if only I could find that post.
I have a pair of plugs that work perfectly, yet they shut themselves off and destroy the WAF thatthe should have enhanced.
And they denigh it.
4/6 work great, need to throw the last 2, exactly the same, out.
Probably a firmware issue, gone.
I have a zigwave plug that has the ability to enable/disable the physical Button in the driver in a Dome On Off Plug. I will check tonight to see if it actually a Dome plug. It might be this one: HAOZEE Z Wave Plus Mini Smart Power Plug
I'm using the Third Reality Zigbee Power meter with kkossev's driver. It has a child lock preference you can set to keep it on. The driver probably works with most generic Zigbee power meter plugs.
If you comfortable with soldering open any one you like and solder a piece of wire across relay contacts. And if you don't like relay clicking cut a coper on one side of the coil.
Just as a note you can also get the same no -relay plug with Tasmota. This will give you a web interface on the plug itself and ability to change options (like power calibration) within Tasmota on the fly and can be brought into HE with the Tasmota sync drivers
The reason I mention this is if I am not mistaken ESPhome does not offer a web interface on the device and changing any settings in the device requires it to be reflashed.
I'm trying to understand how these devices with Tasmoto will work with HE. I don't really understand Tasmota..
I buy the device and install Tasmota on ?? (phone, pc, other???) and set up the device.
I use Tasmota to connect the device to the app and to my wifi network?
Then I can set up the options for the device.
Then I can bring the device into HE using the Tasmota sync drivers and use HE to monitor the power usage??
Does the device with Tasmota need to stay on while I want Hubitat to monitor the power usage? Does it ever need to reconnect to the device with Tasmota as long as I don't need to change any settings?
Also, is anyone aware of a US Power Monitoring Plug without relay that is UL rated?
You don't need to use Tasmota at all if you want to monitor power usage of a device. There are Zigbee/ZWave plugs that do that. You would have to research for UL listing.
This is a specific use case where the OP wanted a plug without on/off switching to monitor power usage of a connected device (refrig, freezer). A "normal" plug would have a relay to control power to the connected device. Tasmota was just a suggestion.
Anyway, Tasmota is installed on a compatible plug. It replaces the plug mfg firmware. The Athom devices come with Tasmota already installed. The appeal of Tasmota is it is open-source, local-control (no calling home to China), and many other features.
You add the plug to your wifi network with a fixed IP address (can be set in Tasmota) or through DHCP in your wifi router.
The Tasmota Sync drivers are then installed on the Hub and allow the Tasmota based device to communicate with the hub. Reporting power usage or just on/off control if using a normal plug.
Yes you would leave the above power monitoring plug in-place as long as you want to monitor power usage of the connected device.
If you interested in exploring Tasmota I would suggest starting a new thread.
@kuzenkohome
Thank you for taking the time to reply. My interest in understanding Tasmota is entirely associated with my interest in a power monitoring plug without a relay to monitor the refrigerator power use and the dehumidifier power use, so I think this is the correct thread, so others with the same interest can figure out how to achieve this with Hubitat. I am not aware of a Zigbee/Zwave plug that offers that.
Both pieces of equipment are critical so I prefer to eliminate all possible variables (ie failure of relay, software update messes up device details or programmed app settings, other)
Both pieces of equipment have outlets in less than convenient locations (behind refrigerator - need to move fridge to get to outlet, and for ducted dehumidifier, in crawl space 1/2 the way to the back), which is another reason to limit variables a relay may introduce and which may require access to the device to reset, etc.
So based on your reply, my understanding is that the Tasmota software is on the device. When I get the device I plug it in, what interface do I use to add it to my wifi network (ie select network and enter password to get it on the network?)
Once on my wifi network, I am familiar with assigning a fixed IP through DHCP.
Then I install the Tasmota driver on the hub and add the device. This is similar to other wifi devices Hubitat recognizes.
However, these other wifi devices recognized by Hubitat require an app on a phone to initially set up. Once set up and paired with HE, some of them work fine never again connecting to the app, but others stop working after hours/days/weeks/months, etc if they can't "call home" through the app. Based on your description, I presume a Tasmota device does not have that issue - ie once connected to HE, it does not need to reconnect to whatever interface was initially used to connect it to the wifi network. Is that correct?
Athom sells plugs that have ESPhome installed, which is generally associated with Home Assistant, and Tasmota, so this will relate to Tasmota. So you would need to order the Tasmota version.
Yes Tasmota is entirely local and does not require an app or cloud/remote servers to function. It is configured through it's web interface or it's text console.
When you plug in the Athom plug, Tasmota on the plug creates a wifi access point (just like a router) with a SSID/wifi network name of Tasmota-###### (no password) with an IP address of 192.168.4.1 so you would need to use a phone, tablet or pc with a wifi adapter to connect to the Tasmota plug. I personally use a desktop pc with a USB wifi adapter that I can connect as needed while still retaining access to my LAN via the wired port.
Once you are connected to the plug (Tasmota main menu below) you can connect it to your main wifi network.
Click on "Information" and record your plug's "MAC Address", then click on "Main Menu". Then access your WiFi router and setup a DCHP reservation for this plug. Using the plug's MAC address.
Next, click on "Configuration", then "Configure WiFi". You should see the menu below. Type in your WiFi networks SSID/Name and password. Click "Save",
At this point the plug should 'reboot' and attempt to connect to your WiFI network. Wait about 1 minute. If successful you should be able to browse to the IP address you chose for it in your DCHP reservation. Note: you will need to switch back to your main WiFi if using a phone/tablet from the second paragraph above.
If all goes well you should see the main Tasmota menu with power monitor stats as shown below: Ignore the big 'ON' and the 'Toggle' button. My plug has a relay.
If you have a load connected to the plug you should also start seeing power consumption stats like mine shows.
Next you need to install Tasmota Sync Drivers on your hub. Specifically #5 1. Single Relay\Switch\Plug with optional power monitoring.
Once you have the driver installed on your hub, create a new 'Virtual' device and select the driver you just installed give a name, room, then when finished, click View" device.
Click on the new plug's "Preferences" tab and enter the IP address for the plug and your hub's IP address and choose the "Type" of plug (use either 3rd or 4th option). Click "Save" at bottom of screen.
Click on the "Commands" tab, then click "Initialize". That will then link your hub to the plug. The plug will start reporting power events to to your hub.
I am doing this with a ZSE38 from Zooz. Its a ZWave repeater but has power monitoring and a backup battery. As such it can report status of the power it is connected to the hub. I talk about it here