Am I missing something??? It appears that there is only one in-wall fan speed controller readily available on the open market, which is the Jasco 55258. Inovelli does have a fan-compatible switch, but that has no speed control.
I'm in a bit of a pickle. I have Homeseer FC200s covering about 75% of my house, and need something to fill out the rest. I can't find any of the FC200s anywhere, even on the secondary market. I suppose the Jascos are the next, best option, unless I'm missing something. Given that these are 500-series units, I should probably buy them all now.
If anybody has any different suggestions, I'm all ears...
I was just looking for these the other day and came to the same conclusion. HomeSeer staff didn't quite say the HS-FC200+ was discontinued on their forum (that I could find), but they did say it didn't sell well and is unlikely to return. Inovelli actually does have a fan controller switch (Zigbee) coming out that is slated to start production soon, though I'm not sure if they've announced an updated timeline -- and, of course, that won't help you right now: Smart Fan Switch (Ceiling & Exhaust) – Inovelli.
What I really want is a canopy module for fans/lights that share a single switch at the wall, like the Inovelli LZW36 (discontinued but may be revisited in a slightly different form, probably not any time soon). The closest thing would be nearly any remote control unit that works with Bond, but there are some problems with that approach that I don't really like (e.g., most remotes don't have discrete on/off commands for lights, only toggle, and with only one-way communication, it's easy to get out of sync).
So, in a pinch recently and not being able to use the switch above, what I did was pair a relay (in the ceiling in my case, since I only have one switch) to get on/off control for the fan, then use smart bulbs (which I already use almost everywhere anyway) for the lights. I don't get speed control this way, but I rarely changed that remotely anyway, and this way I can still reliably control both. I'm using the Zooz ZEN51 since it was easily available and is within the HP rating for my fan, but there are a few others.
None of these are probably exactly what you want besides maybe the GE/Jasco. But hopefully Inovelli's will be out soon, or there are a few other ways if you're willing to compromise on some things.
The thing about Inovelli is that - while they have nice full-featured devices - they often miss projected timelines, sometimes by large margin, and some things have been left hanging for extremely long periods of time with no end in sight. Then they are plagued by supply chain issues. I like their products, but I wouldn't wait on anything they are supposed to ship "soon". Been there done that. If it's available today, they have some nice offerings.
Ah! Thanks for that! I didn't realize that 'switch' would control speeds, too. I thought it was just a switch compatible with fans, since the 2-in-1 is not. That does indeed add another option when/if it ships. And, Inovelli[1] and Zigbee would both be independently preferred over Jasco and Z-Wave[2].
I guess I have 2 options: 1. Buy the Jasco FSCs and pair with HS WX-300 for lighting, or 2. Finish that section of the house with Inovelli and then determine if I want to retrofit the rest.[3] (Or, 3. Do both. Buy the Jasco now as a fallback, and see what happens with Inovelli.)
[1] I've found that having buttons/scene controls on my wall switches/devices is very valuable. I don't use them on every single device, but I do on several and like the flexibility and peace-of-mind of knowing that it's there, wherever 'there' may be, if I need it. And since Inovelli apparently adds buttons/scene control to all their devices, that's a big plus in my opinion.
[2] I've come to like 'good' Zigbee devices more than I do Z-Wave. I know that is a highly personal, controversial, and device-specific opinion, but Zigbee just seems to perform a little more reliably for me.
[3] I had hoped to keep all my in-wall devices in the same 'family' for appearance/aesthetic reasons. The Jasco/Homeseer combo only slightly violates that, but it does, but if I stick with that, I'll spend a couple thousand-ish retrofitting the rest (with Inovelli.) /sigh
I’ve found the Lutron in-wall fan controllers, switches and dimmers to be the most reliable devices I have. They are avail from Home Depot and Amazon. They cost a little more and need a hub (need pro version of Lutron hub to interface with Hubitat) … but they are rock solid on three floors of our home. They just work. A plus is the “Pico” remotes can be used not only on their dimmers and fan controllers but also for any button functions in Hubitat.
Lutron is a non-starter. While I agree with the technical/radio points, not having buttons on regular devices doesn't work for me. I'm not going to string Picos all around the house, when I can just double-tap on the device already on the wall.
I forgot about that one, thanks! (I was leaning away from it, but it could definitely be an option. I'm not as enthused today with Leviton as I used to be. Their radios don't seem to perform as well as others.)
I bought one of those for the bedroom and I love it. Had I know it would become impossible to get I would have ordered one for the dining room fan as well. Unfortunately we are still pulling the chain to control that fan. It's strange to me that no products seem to exist that solve such a common issue.
There have been a few people that have said theirs locks up every now and again. I've had zero trouble with ours. Both are running under ST.
Another option thats not too great is the Hampton Bay zigbee canopy controller. You can buy it standalone by ordering as a spare part from Home Depot directly. Either the HE or ST forums has the details/part numbers, I can't remember which. Most people say its a last resort though.
As it says, on several of my in-wall dimmers & switches, I use the buttons/scene-control-feature (usually some number of taps) to perform alternate actions. AIUI, the Lutron switches & dimmers don't expose any buttons, just on and off (& dimming, if applicable,) therefore, if I went with Lutron I'd have to add a lot of button devices (and if you have Lutron and need button devices, use Picos) around the house to compensate, and I don't want to do that.
I think the only way to do what I want with Lutron is to move up to a RadioRA x system and use their scene controllers, and my pocketbook balks at that idea.
Ah ok. Thanks for explaining. I didn't follow the thread closely enough to know what you had currently.
It sounds like the Z-Wave devices are what you want for a Fan. Although just FYI, I do have an Inovelli LZW36, and to my recollection, you can separate the buttons from the fan control as I am doing for control of my RF radio fan, or you can control a basic fan without an in-built radio via the canopy module, but not both simultaneously.
Just my $0.02 as food for thought. I'm 100% with you there, but, as you have already figured out, that becomes really limiting for fan control. My approach is just to have at least one Zooz switch (just highlighting their button/scene feature) in every box specifically for this reason. My thought is that my desire for having that option would probably have a limited number of uses for whatever area the switches are in. So, at least one capable device would fit the bill. This definitely has some edge considerations that may be a limiter, but I haven't ran into it yet (at least with my home setups of course).
This is also hedged with the fact that my preferences for button controllers are usually to have them where I am going to be (e.g., end table by the couch, on my desk) versus confined to a wall box.
All of this to say that this approach means my solutions for fans are just to find whatever works. Most (like stated above) are using the GE fan controllers. My office only has a single switch but I hung a fan in there (was a pendent light, but with a fan rated box). Like @bertabcd1234, I just stuck a ZEN52 relay in the canopy. The wall switch is a Zooz ZEN71 with local control disabled and forced to on at all times. The light bulbs are Hue (now at least) so the relay is just for ticking the fan on/off. I had a BC rule to use the in-wall switch for that with single tap and controlling the lights via Hue through double tap when needed.
Everywhere else, the fan light is on a Zooz switch of some sort that can used for the button functions for that area.
I'm with you. That was a poor job of separating my thoughts.
One thought was Lutron. I can't use Lutron because they don't do 'simple device' scene control, and if I'm going to invest in Lutron, I'd rather not mix-and-match in-wall device brands (or, at the least, looks, as that door has apparently already closed.) As mentioned, though, Picos are great for portable control, so I ultimately may have Lutron here, but not for in-wall stuff.
The other thought was having a lighting switch/dimmer with buttons in every wallbox. (All my fans have have 14/3 run with a dual-gang box for separate light & fan switches.) Like you, one button device per box should suffice, so I don't particularly need the fan device to have buttons. (I only ended up with the FC200s because I already picked the WD/WS200s, and I was trying to match styles.)
So, in the end, I'll very likely end up with the HS-WX300 for lights and probably the Leviton for the fans. The Leviton gets the nod because I like its fan speed display better. That said, if I get the Levitons in and don't like them, I won't hesitate to dump them for the Jascos.
