NAS help!

Is there anything talking about the best SSDs to use in a NAS? I'm so over spinning rust.

It looks like for what I paid for the 1.5TB HDDs in my NAS from 12 years ago I can buy 2TB SSDs today. I'd just consider going with 4TB SSDs or something in a new NAS system today.

I think he does go into that in one of the clips I have watched, would need to dig through them to find it. From memory I think the main points re SSD vs spinning disks at the moment were the price point (per TB) and possibly, in the case of Synology, the limitations in how they could be used. I'm not sure whether you could use just SSD's in a Synology NAS, or whether it was advisable to do it..., but I'm definitely no expert.

EDIT: My comment about being able to use just SSDs in a Synology NAS were not entirely accurate.... I still think there are some limitations, but I don't think it is as clear-cut as not being able to use them as the main storage, at least in a Synology. But I do believe there can be some limitations, so it would have been better to just say "do some research first".

1 Like

I think when you start to look at SSD's the conversation goes largely to can you get the capacity you need with what is reasonably affordable. In general a SSD will be more performant and reliable then spinning rust, but you get crushed in expandability

This is a good point. Almost any kind of raid is kind of ruff on SSD storage and some systems like Unraid actualy will block tech like trim. Unraid's default array is really sub optimal for a all flash storage device. That will be largely fixed though with Unraid 7, but they will still be hard on ssd's because of the nature of how raid writes across all disk.

I also think we need to be a bit more practile when when folks think about a all flash NAS. Even 10Gbps can only do about 1GB Throughput so no reason to go crazy with supper fast drives.

My little Unraid MiniPC server has 3 4TB Crucial P3 Plus drives that i have really come to love for this application They run cool and are fairly low power. They aren't the fastest drives around as individually they can only do at best around 4800 MB/s, but that is far from what the network can handle. They are a Zraid1 Array and i have seen them generate around 2.4GB/s when gettign pushed locally.

I know if someone asked me I would probably suggest getting 3 Larger spinning disk just have a host spare.

1 Like

Rather than "the best", this is the video I remember watching which is more about whether you should use SSDs.

1 Like

On.one of my qnap nases as well as hard drives i out 4 1tb ssds in raid 1 and installed a virtual windows server on that .

I don't want SSDs for performance, I want SSDs for reliability. I have had enough HDDs die over the years that I don't want to deal with them anymore. I'm just completely done depending upon tiny, precision moving parts.

Figuring out the best way to stripe them would be key, however.

My favorite...holds up well as long as you don't chew it. :wink:

image

3 Likes

I hope you realize that SSDs have their issues too. I would trust a mechanical drive, designed for use in a NAS over SSD at this point in time. SSD has it's place, such as for cache drives in UNRAID, but mechanical NAS drives are still the way to go for me. Many off the shelf NAS hardware still doesn't support SSD.

1 Like

It is a trade off. I have machines that have both. There are somethings SSD's are just not good at. SSD's have an expiration date because each cell can only be written to a limited number of times. That depends on the drive though. Also when you implement disk protection schemes on them, they were pretty much all not designed when considering Wear Leveling.

You also have to remember that many Flash drive manufactures expressly prohibit their drives in NAS's unless they are made for that purpose. Most are not.

1 Like

The following can be used in raids

"Compatibility List - QNAP"

1 Like

as a side note decided to pick up one of the qnap ts-262 nas from bh photo for our condo as a windows server and music server at the good price of 279. I did confirm with them that the info is wrong and the memory is expandable.. got it and sure enough it does have sodimm sockets.. 16gb of memory crucial cost 32 bucks on amazon. all in all a good deal for a raid 1 small intel based nas. see review at nas compares only thing they complained about was the lack of menory expansion which h as been addressed. and at the time the price was around 400.

3 Likes