Hello,
After having some trouble setting up my HE, and eventually getting sent a new one charge-free (very happy about that), I seem to have run into another brick wall. I am currently just running some tests on a couple of motion sensors, just to gauge what companies I should invest further into, etc. Currently, I am working on a Philips Hue Indoor Motion Sensor, and a Pet-Immune Ecolink PIRZWAVE2.5. Recently I've found that the Philips sensor is MUCH easier to work with, so that is my main concern atm. My rule is a pretty simple generic Rule Machine function where I Log a custom message every time my sensor is triggered. It runs along the lines of, "Philips Sensor activated, Log Philips Sensor activated." The problem here is that after I trip the sensor, it seems to stay in an active state for somewhere between 10-12 seconds after no further movement. I've seen other places on the forums that there are built-in delays to the sensors, but for my ultimate purpose, I'll need quick reaction time.
Really happy with both Hubitat support and Community so far, so I'm looking forward to everyone's responses!
Sincerely.
P.S. You can find the Philips motion sensor by just searching up Philips Hue Motion Sensor on Google, and it should be the first non-ad result. My model has a luminance and temperature sensor as well.
What is your question?
Are you looking for a motion sensor with a quicker active to inactive state change?
Or some kind of hardware hack to make your Phillips motion sensor change state faster?
I think you’ll find most sensors stay active for at least 10 seconds, or longer.
While the Philips sensor is unusual in that it actually offers several timeout settings, shorter timeout settings lead to reduced battery life.
This isn't so hard to understand given the largest power draw a device incurres is when transmitting data.
The single most important metric for a motion sensor is the motion active reaction time.
Precisely. I was just wondering if the delay had to do with the specific sensor, or if it is something built into the HE environment. Any solutions would be welcome.
I'm not worried about battery life for the moment, but how would I access the setting to change the active timeout?
It's a preference setting in the hue motion driver, the lowest value Is 10 seconds.
Maybe you can let us in on your use case for needing a quicker active reset setting.
Sorry, just starting out with HE and home automation in general, but how would I access the driver? Also, if possible, would I be able to access a driver for my Ecolink as well?
The driver is the digital representation of the device and is shown on the device page after the device is included.
Any settings for the device are shown in the preference section of the driver ui.
The Ecolink does not have any software preference settings.
My sincere apologies for not following instructions or misunderstanding, but at the moment, this is what my device page looks like:
BD-1-MS-1 represents the Ecolink Motion Sensor and
BD-1-MS-2 represents the Philips Hue Motion Sensor.
This is what the page looks like after selecting the Philips Sensor:
Am I missing something on these pages, or am I still in the wrong spot?
Why did you disable the motion detector?, isn't that what you purchased this device for?
Setting the Motion retrigger preference to disabled, disables it...
Sorry. Was messing with some of the options after your comments. My apologies for the confusion. I have reset it to 10 seconds now.
I think a lot of us are wondering what you use case is for a setting less than 10 seconds, or even a use case for less than 30 seconds?
I'll need the quick reaction times for a monitoring system for my business. This won't be used for a lighting or garage-door type system. Essentially, I'll need to track how many times something has moved, along with being able to track each independent movement.
This is probably not the best use case for motion sensors, especially these fairly inexpensive smart home type sensors.
I certainly hope you aren't using these to monitor machinery or some type of production process? That would be a complete misapplication of this type of sensor. And god forbid for something safety related!
No. I won't be using it for monitoring machinery or something that requires precision and complete reliability that would potentially be dangerous in a failure. No need to worry about complete precision, I just need some dynamic options. I started this thread looking more for an answer to whether the active state delay was a variable controllable with the HE environment and if so how to get a fix. If this is not the case, I would love suggestions for different hardware that could suit my needs better.
Your "monitoring something" is sort of a vague statement. Monitoring what, or who? And where do you want to do this, like a doorway, or a desk, or what? Without details, it is hard to see what you are trying to do and therefore hard to make a recommendation.
Alright, for sake of clarity, the business I'm looking to furnish is a Nursing Home, and I'll need motion sensors in each room. I'd like to stick with traditional home automation systems, as I will be looking into other devices such as automatic lighting, thermostats, etc. My apologies for not being clear previously.
Which events are you interested in?
Motion active events
or
Motion inactive events
If you are looking for motion active events, you can probably accomplish this by having multiple motion sensors per room.
As a recent patient of a Nursing home I suggest you ask some patients what automation's they might like and what they don't like before you spend much effort. PIR Motion sensors detect change in heat (infra-red). That is not 'motion' as you might be thinking. I suggest you talk with the licensing folks as well because there should be 'crap load' of them you need to deal with.
