Monitoring Charging of a TalentCell Battery With a Zooz ZEN04

velvetfoot · May 29, 2024, 1:31pm

This chart is charging the TalentCell after it powered those two devices for 12 hours (from fully charged).

jameslslate · May 29, 2024, 8:28pm

My comment was a silly attempt at humor, as there is no Imperial vs. Metric time conversion. Oh never mind.

velvetfoot · May 30, 2024, 2:16am

I won't

velvetfoot · May 30, 2024, 11:35am

I wrote up a crude rule to stop charging at 5 Watts, power by battery only for 12 hours, and repeat.
The log seem to indicate it's worked so far. Took 2 hours to get to 5 W, but starting state of charge was not known really-there were three bars anyway. Let's see what happens when or if it runs for 12 hours on battery only.

log

dev:18682024-05-29 11:54:35.674 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 0 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:54:29.057 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 4.9 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:52:26.169 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 5 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:51:24.793 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 5.1 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:49:22.035 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 5.2 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:47:19.153 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 5.3 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:46:17.744 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 5.4 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:44:14.923 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 5.5 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:43:13.489 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 5.6 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:42:12.006 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 5.7 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:40:08.970 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 5.8 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:38:05.947 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 5.9 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:37:04.403 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 6.1 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:36:02.895 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 6.2 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:32:58.435 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 6.4 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:31:56.888 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 6.5 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:30:55.326 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 6.6 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:29:53.783 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 6.7 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:28:52.231 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 6.8 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:27:50.683 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 7 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:25:47.472 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 7.1 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:24:45.861 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 7.2 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:23:44.280 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 7.3 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:22:42.679 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 7.5 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:21:41.021 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 7.6 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:20:39.378 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 7.7 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:19:37.733 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 7.8 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:18:36.081 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 7.9 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:17:34.408 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 8.1 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:16:32.770 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 8.2 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:15:31.099 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 8.3 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:14:29.483 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 8.4 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:13:27.880 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 8.6 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:12:26.236 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 8.7 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:11:24.611 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 8.9 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:10:22.964 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 9 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:09:21.221 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 9.1 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:08:19.522 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 9.2 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:07:17.820 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 9.5 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:06:16.117 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 9.6 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:05:14.410 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 9.8 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:04:12.718 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 10 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:03:11.086 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 10.1 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:02:09.481 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 10.2 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:01:07.828 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 10.4 W

dev:18682024-05-29 11:00:06.146 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 10.7 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:59:04.513 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 10.8 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:58:02.872 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 11 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:55:59.482 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 11.4 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:54:57.737 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 11.6 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:53:56.037 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 11.7 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:52:54.371 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 12 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:51:52.733 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 12.2 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:50:51.061 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 12.4 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:49:49.345 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 12.6 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:48:47.665 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 12.9 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:47:45.963 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 13.1 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:46:44.190 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 13.3 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:45:42.406 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 13.5 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:44:40.610 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 13.8 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:43:38.821 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 14 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:42:37.018 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 14.3 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:41:35.227 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 14.6 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:40:33.460 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 14.8 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:39:31.734 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 15.1 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:38:30.015 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 15.4 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:37:28.343 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 15.6 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:36:26.581 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 15.9 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:35:24.877 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 16.2 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:34:23.163 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 16.5 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:33:21.409 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 16.8 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:32:19.665 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 17.1 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:31:17.875 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 17.5 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:30:16.112 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 17.8 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:29:14.341 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 18.1 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:28:12.586 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 18.4 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:27:10.831 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 18.8 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:26:09.049 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 19.2 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:25:07.236 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 19.5 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:24:05.463 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 19.8 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:23:03.686 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 20.1 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:22:01.913 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 20.7 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:21:00.108 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 21 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:19:58.280 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 21.3 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:18:56.430 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 21.8 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:17:54.552 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 22.2 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:16:52.732 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 22.6 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:15:50.882 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 23.1 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:14:49.072 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 23.6 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:13:47.353 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 24.1 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:12:45.588 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 24.5 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:11:43.828 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 25 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:10:42.089 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 25.5 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:09:40.337 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 26 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:08:38.539 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 26.6 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:07:36.751 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 27.1 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:06:34.967 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 27.7 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:05:33.228 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 28.3 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:04:31.498 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 28.8 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:02:27.964 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 29.4 W

dev:18682024-05-29 10:00:24.519 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 29.3 W

dev:18682024-05-29 09:59:22.928 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 29.4 W

dev:18682024-05-29 09:57:19.746 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 29.3 W

dev:18682024-05-29 09:56:18.154 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 29.2 W

dev:18682024-05-29 09:55:16.658 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 29.4 W

dev:18682024-05-29 09:54:15.283 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 29.3 W

dev:18682024-05-29 09:51:11.004 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 29.4 W

dev:18682024-05-29 09:50:09.350 PMinfoLR TalentCell, Hub/Router: power set to 29.6 W

velvetfoot · May 30, 2024, 10:50pm

It's working. Plenty of juice to spare. Took ~ two hours to charge to 5W input after powering the two devices for 12 hours.

Let me note that I have WiFi radio turned off on the Netgear router. I'm only using it because the old Envisalink security board wouldn't communicate with the AT&T Orb (Internet Air Gateway), but it works with the Netgear. So, less power consumption there.

I'm hoping that not charging the battery to 100% and keeping it there will prolong its life. I'll know if it's getting weak when, one day, no rules work. LOL.

I'll let it run through a couple more automatic cycles and maybe post a chart.

I'm sure the rule has weaknesses and there are scenarios that'll make it choke, but we'll see.

Is 5 Watts the right number? I don't know.

coralcovect2005 · May 31, 2024, 12:41am

Hope it works well.

velvetfoot · May 31, 2024, 10:09am

I bumped it up to 8 Watts.
I figure it's closer to the 80% number you spoke of earlier.
It seems like there's plenty of power to spare, at this point in the battery's life cycle anyway.

velvetfoot · May 31, 2024, 9:14pm

Being a Beta group member, I'm always updating the platform. Well, apparently that initializes the app, which causes the plug to not turn on after the 12 hour wait period.

Anyway, instead of upgrading my crude rule in some as-yet unknown fashion, I used the AutoOn feature of the ZEN04, set for 720 minutes. I'll keep an eye on it.

velvetfoot · May 31, 2024, 11:24pm

It took 1.5hrs to get to 8 watts.
I upgraded the platform to 2.3.9.143 and it had no effect on the rule.

velvetfoot · June 1, 2024, 10:39am

I think I'll keep track of the ZEN04 AutoOn discrepancies from 720 minutes in this post:

6/1, +15(approx)
6/1, +15m24s
6/2, +15m10s
6/3, +15m16s
6/3, +15m15s
edit: Not seeing massive drift from any lackluster electric grid frequency control
6/4, +15m5s

velvetfoot · June 14, 2024, 11:07am

Since the charge time to 8 watts power draw is about 1.5 hours, I made a rule to notify me if it goes over 2 hours. Maybe for battery degradation, or something's not right, lol.

It seemed to work when I tested it, so here's hoping...